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Spike/Harm ,'Help'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 23, 2011 4:06:56 pm PDT #4922 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Eh. I reserve the right to think stuff is creepy. Doesn't mean I'll try to prevent people who are into it from enjoying themselves; I just won't be attending the key party.


Jesse - Apr 23, 2011 4:09:55 pm PDT #4923 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

For me, I think most of porn is skeevy and weird in some way, but that doesn't mean all of it is, or that a lot of it's not hot to look at.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2011 4:11:04 pm PDT #4924 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

stuff seems to be acted out to fulfill the non-participating partner's fantasies

That's really not the dynamic I've encountered in the interracial cuckolding. The husbands seem to be fairly often in chastity belts undergoing orgasm denial, and they do participate, in order to clean up after where the black guy just went.

It's sounding a bit like "Everybody's else's porn is skeevy and weird, but my freaky deeky thing that I like is untainted. And anybody that thinks my thing is weird makes me angry with their wrongness."

Where are you getting that? Half your point is defensiveness, which I haven't seen here.

As for judgy, I am judgy about the racism I think is inherent in the interracial cuckolding kink, and I'm totally good with that. Judgy judgy judge.


Scrappy - Apr 23, 2011 4:14:01 pm PDT #4925 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I was going to do an hour or two of weeding, but I washed, folded and put away all the laundry, went to the office and worked two hours clearing out recyclables and shredding DVDs, went to the paint store and got touch-up paint for the living room wall and took the dogs on a two mile walk. So now I want to lounge around and, dammit, I will.

That Mandingo stuff is skeevy, I think. Not the humiliation kink, but the fact that for these guys the ultimate humiliation is having specifically a black guy fuck your wife.


Amy - Apr 23, 2011 4:16:08 pm PDT #4926 of 30001
Because books.

I'm sure a lot of people think porn I might like is skeevy. Good for them. I'm perfectly entitled to think porn they like is gross or skeevy or just plain weird, too. But I won't tell them they can't watch it, and I assume they'll do the same for me.


DavidS - Apr 23, 2011 4:19:18 pm PDT #4927 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Where are you getting that?

From everybody saying how skeeved they were by interracial porn. It's such a common kink and I don't think you can impute the racism in it.

As for judgy, I am judgy about the racism I think is inherent in the interracial cuckolding kink

...though you disagree. Is a preference for latino men, or asian women equally skeevy? I just don't think the myriad of associations that go into any individuals sexuality need to pass that kind of scrutiny. I don't think every white woman into black men has Jungle Fever (sorry, Spike).

Half your point is defensiveness,

I threw that in there. But mostly because there are a lot of outlier sexual interests on this board that wouldn't pass somebody else's skeeve test. So my philosophy is not to be so judgy about what floats a boat.

Different people like different shit and you can't presume to know why.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 23, 2011 4:19:28 pm PDT #4928 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

That's really not the dynamic I've encountered in the interracial cuckolding. The husbands seem to be fairly often in chastity belts undergoing orgasm denial, and they do participate, in order to clean up after where the black guy just went.

Huh, that's a new one on me. Something that specific is common enough to be a big new trend? (Admittedly it's not as if I go looking into the details of straight sexuality much; I'm still mystified by the KISS style heels that are apparently such a turn on.)


Cass - Apr 23, 2011 4:28:09 pm PDT #4929 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

From everybody saying how skeeved they were by interracial porn.

Interracial isn't the skeeve. It's the cuckolding of a white guy by a specifically black guy. For me.

They've got a right to get their yayas there so long as it's all of age and consensual, but, yeah, I find it totally skeevy and I judge them.

I also judge people with swastika tattoos. They've got the right. But I judge.


Jesse - Apr 23, 2011 4:29:09 pm PDT #4930 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Interracial isn't the skeeve. It's the cuckolding of a white guy by a specifically black guy. For me.

Ditto.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2011 4:30:01 pm PDT #4931 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is a preference for latino men, or asian women equally skeevy?

In the cuckolding kink, or in general? I don't know how they'd work Asian women into it, although I can imagine Latino men slotting into a similar position, but without the historical trappings of animal sexuality, so it wouldn't translate particularly well.

For the record, nobody said they were uncomfortable with interracial porn but me. So it's me you're talking to with the first part of the statement. And I haven't defended any of my kinks, so it's not me you're talking to with the second statement. So I'm not sure why you strung them together like it's one position being held by anyone here. Or why you didn't just call me out and leave everyone else out of it.

And, yeah, as long as porn makes me feel objectified, I'm going to feel uncomfortable. I think that's perfectly reasonable behaviour.