Aw! Thanks, Sophia! And everyone who's bought it! I just hope you all enjoy it.
Tracy: Well-- That call -- That call means you just murdered me. Mal: No, son. You murdered yourself. I just carried the bullet a while.
'The Message'
Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Amy - Sep 21, 2011 9:37:24 am PDT #27567 of 30001
Because books.
Tom Scola - Sep 21, 2011 9:38:34 am PDT #27568 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
The Supremes could intervene, but it doesn't look likely at this point.
The President can only pardon people convicted of a federal crime.
Burrell - Sep 21, 2011 9:56:53 am PDT #27569 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Ugh, that execution! Makes me angry, makes me feel little and ineffectual. How can justice go so completely wrong? I mean, I know I know justice CAN go wrong, I just... why can't someone step in and stop it?
Jessica - Sep 21, 2011 9:58:58 am PDT #27570 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Makes me angry, makes me feel little and ineffectual. How can justice go so completely wrong? I mean, I know I know justice CAN go wrong, I just... why can't someone step in and stop it?
This. So much this.
Ginger - Sep 21, 2011 10:00:33 am PDT #27571 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
At this point, the Pardons and Parole board could reconsider, but it's unlikely. I wouldn't argue that he's not guilty. He may well be. I just don't think the death penalty should ever be on the table on a case heavily based on eyewitness reports.
le nubian - Sep 21, 2011 10:04:36 am PDT #27572 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
If any of you feel like it, you can fax and call the numbers at this link (re: Troy execution). I did the faxes. I am not sure if I feel like calling.
I'm pretty upset by this. I am morally opposed to the death penalty in general and this one feel so unjust particularly.
The Supreme Court interference in the recent 2 TX executions gives me hope that perhaps they can shut this one down too.
Ginger - Sep 21, 2011 10:16:55 am PDT #27573 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
I am not morally opposed to the death penalty. I'm opposed to the way it's implemented in this country. I'd have a much better opinion of it if they executed a few rich white guys. I also think there should be national standards for the degree of severity of crime that is eligible for the death penalty. It needs to be a premeditated crime of a horrific nature or a series of killings that show that the killer has no concern for human life.
Sophia Brooks - Sep 21, 2011 10:39:35 am PDT #27574 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
I am Ginger. I am actually only against the death penalty because of the possibility of a miscarriage of justice in our system. But I don't actually value all human life so much that I don't think it might be a better option to execute Ted Bundy or Charles Manson.
Sparky1 - Sep 21, 2011 10:52:44 am PDT #27575 of 30001
Librarian Warlord
It's my understanding that the warrant could be withdrawn by the District Attorney, but that the Parole Board is done and that there are no avenues of appeal to the US Supreme Court.
Amy - Sep 21, 2011 11:05:01 am PDT #27576 of 30001
Because books.
I'm not against the death penalty when it comes to someone like Ted Bundy. I want to say, "And Charles Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer," but then I think, where do you draw the line between mental illness and simple evil? I hate the money the state of California has spent housing and feeding Manson all these years, but how guilty is he if he's mentally ill?
The people he persuaded to join him are a different story, though.
What needs to be addressed is proof in all cases, and some more regulated standards when reviewing a case for the death penalty.