Didn't Charles Manson's sentence get commuted to life in prison without possibility of parole?
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Burrell - Sep 21, 2011 11:16:18 am PDT #27577 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Tom Scola - Sep 21, 2011 11:17:45 am PDT #27578 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
No, Charlie gets a parole hearing every few years. Which will never be granted, but gets him media attention.
JenP - Sep 21, 2011 11:21:40 am PDT #27579 of 30001
I have done absolutely no research on this, but I've maybe read an article at some point - isn't it true that there's been research showing that executing someone is more expensive than keeping them in prison for life? I would guess because of appeal costs, maybe? Anyone know whether this has a basis in reality, or is it just one of those things people say?
Burrell - Sep 21, 2011 11:22:39 am PDT #27580 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Ah, OK, so yeah just a life sentence then. Which I only say because it frustrates me that someone who is often presented as the poster child for execution will never be executed. Not that I want to see him executed, just that I feel the example underlines the disparity between how most people view the death penalty and how it is actually enforced.
flea - Sep 21, 2011 11:23:43 am PDT #27581 of 30001
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No, it's true. [link]
tommyrot - Sep 21, 2011 11:24:52 am PDT #27582 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
isn't it true that there's been research showing that executing someone is more expensive than keeping them in prison for life?
Yeah, it's hugely more expensive to execute someone than keep them in prison for 50-70 years.
le nubian - Sep 21, 2011 11:24:57 am PDT #27583 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I have done absolutely no research on this, but I've maybe read an article at some point - isn't it true that there's been research showing that executing someone is more expensive than keeping them in prison for life?
Yes. Apparently research on this issue is what led Texas to minimize the appeals and time that inmates spend on death row.
And, in my view, has led TX to execute at least one innocent man.
le nubian - Sep 21, 2011 11:25:45 am PDT #27584 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
And it should be noted that men in prison have shorter life spans anyway, so "life in prison" for the average inmate is not nearly as long as Manson's.
JenP - Sep 21, 2011 11:27:50 am PDT #27585 of 30001
Yes. Apparently research on this issue is what led Texas to minimize the appeals and time that inmates spend on death row.
Wow, see, Texas, that's not where I would've gone with that. Jesus.
ETA: Thanks for that link, flea. Tons of eye-opening info. there.
Amy - Sep 21, 2011 11:34:13 am PDT #27586 of 30001
Because books.
Wow, see, Texas, that's not where I would've gone with that. Jesus.
Yikes. Yeah.
It's complicated that the laws vary state to state, too.