I am Ginger. I am actually only against the death penalty because of the possibility of a miscarriage of justice in our system. But I don't actually value all human life so much that I don't think it might be a better option to execute Ted Bundy or Charles Manson.
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Sophia Brooks - Sep 21, 2011 10:39:35 am PDT #27574 of 30001
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Sparky1 - Sep 21, 2011 10:52:44 am PDT #27575 of 30001
Librarian Warlord
It's my understanding that the warrant could be withdrawn by the District Attorney, but that the Parole Board is done and that there are no avenues of appeal to the US Supreme Court.
Amy - Sep 21, 2011 11:05:01 am PDT #27576 of 30001
Because books.
I'm not against the death penalty when it comes to someone like Ted Bundy. I want to say, "And Charles Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer," but then I think, where do you draw the line between mental illness and simple evil? I hate the money the state of California has spent housing and feeding Manson all these years, but how guilty is he if he's mentally ill?
The people he persuaded to join him are a different story, though.
What needs to be addressed is proof in all cases, and some more regulated standards when reviewing a case for the death penalty.
Burrell - Sep 21, 2011 11:16:18 am PDT #27577 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Didn't Charles Manson's sentence get commuted to life in prison without possibility of parole?
Tom Scola - Sep 21, 2011 11:17:45 am PDT #27578 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
No, Charlie gets a parole hearing every few years. Which will never be granted, but gets him media attention.
JenP - Sep 21, 2011 11:21:40 am PDT #27579 of 30001
I have done absolutely no research on this, but I've maybe read an article at some point - isn't it true that there's been research showing that executing someone is more expensive than keeping them in prison for life? I would guess because of appeal costs, maybe? Anyone know whether this has a basis in reality, or is it just one of those things people say?
Burrell - Sep 21, 2011 11:22:39 am PDT #27580 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Ah, OK, so yeah just a life sentence then. Which I only say because it frustrates me that someone who is often presented as the poster child for execution will never be executed. Not that I want to see him executed, just that I feel the example underlines the disparity between how most people view the death penalty and how it is actually enforced.
flea - Sep 21, 2011 11:23:43 am PDT #27581 of 30001
information libertarian
No, it's true. [link]
tommyrot - Sep 21, 2011 11:24:52 am PDT #27582 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
isn't it true that there's been research showing that executing someone is more expensive than keeping them in prison for life?
Yeah, it's hugely more expensive to execute someone than keep them in prison for 50-70 years.
le nubian - Sep 21, 2011 11:24:57 am PDT #27583 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I have done absolutely no research on this, but I've maybe read an article at some point - isn't it true that there's been research showing that executing someone is more expensive than keeping them in prison for life?
Yes. Apparently research on this issue is what led Texas to minimize the appeals and time that inmates spend on death row.
And, in my view, has led TX to execute at least one innocent man.