William ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
But if you are both shapeshifters and have sex while you are both, say, wolves, that wouldn't be bestiality. I'd say.
I agree, bestiality does not apply when there is sentience for everyone involved (and communication of some sort - if you don't know the other party is sentient bestiality might still be an appropriate label).
What if they gave you consent before they shifted into their non-sentient form?
Good question! Someone write Ann Landers.
Also, what if the species is sentient but they don't believe in free will, so "consent" is meaningless for them?
It seems part of the reason bestiality is considered immoral is that animals can't consent to sex with humans. Which is obviously not an issue with a sentient, consenting dolphin.
Drowning, however, is.
Dolphins are sentient. I think you mean sapient. (Or maybe consentient.)
Dolphins are sentient. I think you mean sapient. (Or maybe consentient.)
Pssst, billytea thinks doll bins are salient. Pass it on...
Incidentally, my brother once sent me, for reasons best known to himself, a how-to guide on seducing a dolphin.
I've heard stories that, in the swim with the dolphins features at water parks and such, there have been problems with male dolphins, shall we say, putting the moves on the human swimmers.
Oh good lord -- I just had a flashback of a story I've read about that, and the resulting child.
I go grey for 12 hours and I come back to seducing dolphins? This is why I can't have a job that keeps me off the interwebs.
Consent before shifting...I dunno, depends on worldview. Sometimes, the human self or soul and the animal self are clearly two separate entities, and in some 'verses, they are not.
I think, even if the human part gave consent, if the animal part was frightening or unwilling, it would be...rape. I dunno. Rapiality? Beastirape? Hmmm.
But if the animal part were participatory, then it would be consensual, if fuzzy, sex.
Huh. I'm just going to say it's safer, all the way around, to avoid sex altogether with shifted shapeshifters.
Other non-human sentient creatures, well, I guess let you tentacled, disembodied, multilegged, slimy, dry, rocklike, whatever freak flag fly.
And now I have to dogsit. And feel vaguely guilty.