You turn on any of my crew, you turn on me.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Ginger - Mar 22, 2011 10:01:30 am PDT #29593 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

He was desperately clingy for those times we were with him,

Even though my mother can still get out and do things, she's kind of this way, because between years when she had no time to do anything but look after Dad and the years before when she couldn't do anything social because of his drinking, she ended up with few friends. She resents the ones she had who didn't want to deal with Dad at his worst. (I have, on occasion, pointed out that we didn't want to deal with him either.)

And on that dreary note, hookers and blow!


§ ita § - Mar 22, 2011 10:04:10 am PDT #29594 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There has not been enough hookers nor enough blow around here recently.


Burrell - Mar 22, 2011 10:04:22 am PDT #29595 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Sorry if I bristled, Ginger. I was just running over here to my MiL's to babysit so you accidentally hit a nerve.

You owe your parents the best end-of-life experience you can provide. Most of the time, that's not being cared for in your home, or in a home you share with them. At least, not in my experience.

Just to absolutely clear, I don't disagree. If I had it to do again, I would have put my mom into a facility a year earlier than we did.


Steph L. - Mar 22, 2011 10:06:35 am PDT #29596 of 30001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Conversations like this always make me think the utterly I-should-be-struck-by-lightning thought of, "Thank god my dad is almost guaranteed to be dropped by a heart attack."

Of course, the "almost" part of the "almost guaranteed" leaves wiggle room for 30 more years of asking me to program his GPS.

My mom has told me repeatedly, "NEVER take care of me; just put me in a good care facility." The thing is, the way she phrased it, I think it's because she loathes the idea of family taking care of her, not because she doesn't want to be a burden. In fact, I'd bet large sums of folding money on it.


Connie Neil - Mar 22, 2011 10:06:43 am PDT #29597 of 30001
brillig

Please, Goddess, forgive me for being so pathetic and grateful that I no longer have to worry about elderly parents.

edit: interesting crosspost with Teppy.


Consuela - Mar 22, 2011 10:06:53 am PDT #29598 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Hookers and blow!


DawnK - Mar 22, 2011 10:11:30 am PDT #29599 of 30001
giraffe mode

but there are so many personal issues there

Suela that's the crux and pisser of it, isn't it? That's the issue we are struggling with. My MIL is fearful of everything, so trying to get her to be comfortable anywhere is the issue, and my husband doesn't want her upset, it's crazy-making.

ION, ita I love your discovery of Community. My daughter was fiscally irresponsible and bought the DVDs and forced me to mainline all the season 1 eps, and I thank her for it every day. Abed and Troy LOVE!


Consuela - Mar 22, 2011 10:11:50 am PDT #29600 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I think, frankly, we're trapped in many ways because previous generations often had elderly members of the family living with their kids--but they didn't live as long with chronic health issues.

So there were fewer elderly needing assistance, and often the family was larger, people lived closer together, and because the elderly were generally in good health the burden wasn't as great. (That said, my maternal grandmother had COPD and needed pretty regular care for the 3-4 years she lived with us.)

Anyway, that was the expectation my parents grew up with: that their parents would live with them when they aged, and they would live with their children. But both my paternal grandfathers died before they were 65, and only one of my grandmothers lived past 75. There was much less of an issue with long-term medical/nursing care.

Not to mention the fact that all the kids work, and we're geographically pretty dispersed. And here it is, again, with the daughters carrying most of the burden.

I find myself terribly resentful, and then feel guilty for being resentful, because they're my parents and I should be willing to sacrifice for them.


Ginger - Mar 22, 2011 10:12:07 am PDT #29601 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

It's not hookers and blow, but it's mildly amusing, although I was not cheered by learning that 80% of the nation's carrot market is controlled by two firms.

Marketing carrots as fast food: [link]


Lee - Mar 22, 2011 10:12:49 am PDT #29602 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Hookers and Blow!

Also, I just had to send an email to a vendor at Stanford saying, "um, you just redesigned your web site, and we are still using IE7 as our standard browser, and now your web site won't work on our standard browser, because it's still IE7, so what should we do?"