Simon: I, uh... I never-never shot anyone before. Book: I was there, son. I'm fair sure you haven't shot anyone yet.

'War Stories'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Consuela - Mar 22, 2011 10:06:53 am PDT #29598 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Hookers and blow!


DawnK - Mar 22, 2011 10:11:30 am PDT #29599 of 30001
giraffe mode

but there are so many personal issues there

Suela that's the crux and pisser of it, isn't it? That's the issue we are struggling with. My MIL is fearful of everything, so trying to get her to be comfortable anywhere is the issue, and my husband doesn't want her upset, it's crazy-making.

ION, ita I love your discovery of Community. My daughter was fiscally irresponsible and bought the DVDs and forced me to mainline all the season 1 eps, and I thank her for it every day. Abed and Troy LOVE!


Consuela - Mar 22, 2011 10:11:50 am PDT #29600 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I think, frankly, we're trapped in many ways because previous generations often had elderly members of the family living with their kids--but they didn't live as long with chronic health issues.

So there were fewer elderly needing assistance, and often the family was larger, people lived closer together, and because the elderly were generally in good health the burden wasn't as great. (That said, my maternal grandmother had COPD and needed pretty regular care for the 3-4 years she lived with us.)

Anyway, that was the expectation my parents grew up with: that their parents would live with them when they aged, and they would live with their children. But both my paternal grandfathers died before they were 65, and only one of my grandmothers lived past 75. There was much less of an issue with long-term medical/nursing care.

Not to mention the fact that all the kids work, and we're geographically pretty dispersed. And here it is, again, with the daughters carrying most of the burden.

I find myself terribly resentful, and then feel guilty for being resentful, because they're my parents and I should be willing to sacrifice for them.


Ginger - Mar 22, 2011 10:12:07 am PDT #29601 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

It's not hookers and blow, but it's mildly amusing, although I was not cheered by learning that 80% of the nation's carrot market is controlled by two firms.

Marketing carrots as fast food: [link]


Lee - Mar 22, 2011 10:12:49 am PDT #29602 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Hookers and Blow!

Also, I just had to send an email to a vendor at Stanford saying, "um, you just redesigned your web site, and we are still using IE7 as our standard browser, and now your web site won't work on our standard browser, because it's still IE7, so what should we do?"


Steph L. - Mar 22, 2011 10:13:05 am PDT #29603 of 30001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

edit: interesting crosspost with Teppy.

Believe me, I feel like a jackass for being glad my dad will probably not go through a long decline.

And I am, in fact, thrilled that my mom doesn't want family to care for her. She would be the devil.


Steph L. - Mar 22, 2011 10:14:37 am PDT #29604 of 30001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I find myself terribly resentful, and then feel guilty for being resentful, because they're my parents and I should be willing to sacrifice for them.

I am right there with you, and I'm not even faced with the type of situation you are. I just resent being the only person my dad ever turns to, EVER, for every problem that EVER pops up. Including the fucking GPS.


Amy - Mar 22, 2011 10:17:53 am PDT #29605 of 30001
Because books.

After going through what she has with her mom, my mother is pretty much just, "If it gets bad, hold a pillow over my face, please." Which is awful, but I get where she's coming from. She's an only child, my grandfather died almost twenty years ago, and caring for her mom, even not at home, has been really hard.


Jesse - Mar 22, 2011 10:17:54 am PDT #29606 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In circle-of-life news, my coworker's wife just brought their baby to visit. Yay baby!! Super cute and little.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 22, 2011 10:19:08 am PDT #29607 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

This conversation has me googling retirement communities in New Orleans. This place looks pretty nice.