Please...Wesley...why can't I stay?

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Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


smonster - Jul 06, 2011 10:06:18 am PDT #24755 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Frank, check out the VITALS strategy: [link] It's been very helpful for me in learning to do things I don't want to. You don't have to do all the steps, and some will probably work better for you than others.


smonster - Jul 06, 2011 10:09:46 am PDT #24756 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Trifecta:

Also, Frank, feel free to ignore my advice or tell me to shove it. I'm just sharing things that have worked for me, because it seems we have similar issues. I won't take it personally if it's not helpful or wanted.

Rain seems to be in a lull. Off to run errands.


Nora Deirdre - Jul 06, 2011 10:24:34 am PDT #24757 of 30000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

smonster, feel free to use our internet or water for whatever. You can take your container there for potable water, if you like. When is Ray coming over?


Zenkitty - Jul 06, 2011 10:40:29 am PDT #24758 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I'll admit, I've never understood the concept of rewarding yourself for doing unpleasant tasks. It works with kids (if it does!) because a kid doesn't get to decide if he gets a candy or gets to go play; his grown-up can withhold the treat until the task is done. But I'm a grown-up. If I want a cupcake or long hot bubblebath, I'll have it. A reward is something you wouldn't have gotten otherwise. Are there people who are actually withholding good things from themselves because they think they haven't earned them?

The only way I see this working is encouraging myself to save money by planning to spend some of it on something I otherwise couldn't have afforded, but saving up for a trip to the Grand Canyon isn't the same thing as letting myself have a donut because I cleaned off my desk. Maybe I'm just not wired into a task/reward structure that works for other people.


Steph L. - Jul 06, 2011 10:50:10 am PDT #24759 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

But I'm a grown-up. If I want a cupcake or long hot bubblebath, I'll have it.

This is me exactly.

Are there people who are actually withholding good things from themselves because they think they haven't earned them?

And I have wondered the same thing, practically verbatim.

Maybe I'm just not wired into a task/reward structure that works for other people.

I think this is probably it, at least for me. (Or perhaps I am too self-indulgent. Dunno.)


beekaytee - Jul 06, 2011 10:51:35 am PDT #24760 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

I'm seriously debating keeping a log of day-to-day activities, so I can see where wasted time is coming into play.

I'm totally talking about this in 'Business'.

It's been pretty eye-opening. Not that I didn't know about my procrastination problem. That's why I'm logging, after all, but it has given me a strange boost of energy that I didn't expect.

I'm hoping it actually contributes to my efficiency, sooner rather than later.


Steph L. - Jul 06, 2011 10:57:34 am PDT #24761 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It's been pretty eye-opening. Not that I didn't know about my procrastination problem. That's why I'm logging, after all, but it has given me a strange boost of energy that I didn't expect.

I'm hoping it actually contributes to my efficiency, sooner rather than later.

We had so many things to get done before vacation that I printed out a blank month calendar and just assigned things to certain days. Or, really, I'd take a task -- clean off dining room table, for instance -- and write it over several days, so that I had wiggle room, and if I didn't get it done on one specific day, I didn't just ruin my whole schedule.

It worked so well that I need to do the same thing for basic weekly (monthly, etc.) cleaning and other maintenance. That way stuff might actually get done if I have it "scheduled."

t edit Or...do people do that already? Is that a basic aspect of Life As An Adult that I didn't know about?

One thing that NEVER occurred to me to do, but which makes total sense (to me) now that I saw it, was that Tim's mom would keep records of, for instance, holiday dinners -- what size ham, who brought what side dishes, how many people were there, etc. It really has helped Tim's dad now that his mom has passed away, but I have to say, *I* think it's brilliant. I totally need to do that. Er, if we actually hosted large groups, I would.

Is that the kind of thing that was in housekeeping books given to new brides back in the day? I would have badmouthed such a thing as being anti-feminist, but now it just seems like good sense.


beekaytee - Jul 06, 2011 11:08:59 am PDT #24762 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

We had so many things to get done before vacation that I printed out a blank month calendar and just assigned things to certain days. Or, really, I'd take a task -- clean off dining room table, for instance -- and write it over several days, so that I had wiggle room, and if I didn't get it done on one specific day, I didn't just ruin my whole schedule.

Bravo to you Steph, for the structure _and_ the wiggle room. Way to make it work!

I was just talking to a couple today about scheduling their 'special time.'

It can be difficult to encourage folks past the 'that's a nice idea, we should do it' stage into the 'this is how we are going to do it' stage.

Writing stuff down makes a huge difference.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 06, 2011 11:15:23 am PDT #24763 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I think I need to do planning, but with the wiggle room Steph mentioned. I tried planning out my weekends for a while, but when it came to the time, I would just feel not in the mood to do what was on the list (even though it wasn't necessarily chore-type stuff). I was worried wiggle room would help with the self-sabotage, but I'm beginning to think the lack of it made me fight against my own scheduling.

The weird part is, I don't have this problem with my work-work stuff, only my leisure time stuff (and especially leisure time chores).


Steph L. - Jul 06, 2011 11:16:44 am PDT #24764 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I was just talking to a couple today about scheduling their 'special time.'

Ha! THAT, of course, we don't schedule, and we pay a price for not planning. We both procrastinate, and good intentions don't count for much when it's suddenly midnight and "Want to have sex?" translates to "You are going to get 5 hours of sleep tonight!"

(And yes, I am Sheldon-like enough that a simple "Want to have sex?" is much better than trying out some smoooov moves on me. Also, we've been together for 5 years; the moves are no longer smooooov.)

So, uh, yeah. We really need to schedule sexytimes. Or even just movietimes.