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Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

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Gudanov - Apr 27, 2010 5:15:11 am PDT #25391 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

What does show them your papers mean? Is a driver's license enough, what else would you carry? What if you don't own a car? I don't understand how this law would even work.


Vortex - Apr 27, 2010 5:16:35 am PDT #25392 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

What if you don't own a car? I don't understand how this law would even work.

Theoretically, you can get a non driver's ID. Although I don't think that anyone should have to pay for that.


Jesse - Apr 27, 2010 5:17:49 am PDT #25393 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Do you need to be a citizen to get a driver's license?


flea - Apr 27, 2010 5:18:25 am PDT #25394 of 30001
information libertarian

Eva Longoria is one of those Texans who were originally Spanish, then Mexican, then American. They did her genealogy on the recent PBS show with Skip Gates, and found ancestors settling on the land where she grew up in the 1500s.

I think Queen Noor was also descended from Charlemagne. No wonder she is a badass.


Hil R. - Apr 27, 2010 5:18:56 am PDT #25395 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Theoretically, you can get a non driver's ID. Although I don't think that anyone should have to pay for that.

Everyone that I know who doesn't have a driver's license has gotten a non-driver's ID, but that's mostly because most of my friends are in their mid-twenties and still likely to get carded for alcohol.


Aims - Apr 27, 2010 5:20:23 am PDT #25396 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

They were doing a story about this on NPR last night and some dude who loves this law kept saying, "This country was founded on laws and the obeying of those laws" or something. At which point I yelled, "No. This country was founded on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. So shut it yokel."


Hil R. - Apr 27, 2010 5:20:46 am PDT #25397 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Do you need to be a citizen to get a driver's license?

No. In most states, if you're not a citizen, you need to show your visa, but you don't need to be a citizen.


msbelle - Apr 27, 2010 5:21:26 am PDT #25398 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Is a driver's license enough,

HA! illegals can get those!

certificate of citizenship. I am getting one for mac, because a passport is not always enough to get people to BACK THE FUCK OFF. Ahem. His permenant residence card is what we use now.

So sure, those people born and raised here who have the gaul to have non-white skin, they best start acting like the immigrants they are in their hearts and learn about these awesome registration cards I mean revenue streams I mean terrorism deterants issued by Homeland Security once you can PROVE you're 'merican.


flea - Apr 27, 2010 5:21:57 am PDT #25399 of 30001
information libertarian

You do not need to be a citizen to get a driver's license. If I understand the law correctly, you would need a birth certificate, passport, or naturalization papers/green card/etc.


Gudanov - Apr 27, 2010 5:22:19 am PDT #25400 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

One of our old cars has returned. We sold it (at a low price) to my FIL years ago. Now my FIL has bought a truck (yay, we know someone we can borrow a truck from!) and they are keeping the car at our house until we decide what to do with it. They proposed giving it to us, but we negotiated to half book value (about $500-750). It wouldn't cost much to insure and it's mechanically sound, but we don't really need it.

OTOH, the kids are getting too big for my little Civic hatchback (which would become a commuting-only car) and if it went down, we wouldn't have to buy a replacement. It's a good problem to have, but it's turning into a tough decision.