This is so nice. Having everyone together for my birthday. Of course, you could smash in all my toes with a hammer and it will still be the bestest Buffy Birthday Bash in a big long while.

Buffy ,'Potential'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


flea - Apr 27, 2010 5:21:57 am PDT #25399 of 30001
information libertarian

You do not need to be a citizen to get a driver's license. If I understand the law correctly, you would need a birth certificate, passport, or naturalization papers/green card/etc.


Gudanov - Apr 27, 2010 5:22:19 am PDT #25400 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

One of our old cars has returned. We sold it (at a low price) to my FIL years ago. Now my FIL has bought a truck (yay, we know someone we can borrow a truck from!) and they are keeping the car at our house until we decide what to do with it. They proposed giving it to us, but we negotiated to half book value (about $500-750). It wouldn't cost much to insure and it's mechanically sound, but we don't really need it.

OTOH, the kids are getting too big for my little Civic hatchback (which would become a commuting-only car) and if it went down, we wouldn't have to buy a replacement. It's a good problem to have, but it's turning into a tough decision.


Amy - Apr 27, 2010 5:22:53 am PDT #25401 of 30001
Because books.

They were doing a story about this on NPR last night and some dude who loves this law kept saying, "This country was founded on laws and the obeying of those laws" or something. At which point I yelled, "No. This country was founded on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. So shut it yokel."

That guy clearly never saw Bill Murray's speech in Stripes.


lisah - Apr 27, 2010 5:23:46 am PDT #25402 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Do you need to be a citizen to get a driver's license?

Isn't this a state by state thing?

Swifty is going to be at the vet through tomorrow at least. I'm panicking a bit thinking about the $$$$. Universe! I need to pay for my wedding this year! sheesh.

We are getting our dj for the cost of boozing and feeding him, though.


erikaj - Apr 27, 2010 5:24:08 am PDT #25403 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

I hate this law more than anybody and what is becoming a close second? My "brothers and sisters" calling everyone in the state a racist, illiterate pigfucker because sorting things out is just too confusing. I probably have it coming, karmically, because I was sort of raised to believe that every person in the South knew where those Freedom Riders went and didn't say anything.(We're so inferior...we like knowing there's somebody to hate worse. Sorry, Southerners.) I'm already embarrassed about living here...the descriptions of my family brushing our tooth in the morning seem gratuitous.


Jesse - Apr 27, 2010 5:24:55 am PDT #25404 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Isn't this a state by state thing?

Oh yeah, of course it is.


Gudanov - Apr 27, 2010 5:25:04 am PDT #25405 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

If I understand the law correctly, you would need a birth certificate, passport, or naturalization papers/green card/etc.

So things natural-born citizens don't typically carry around. Awesome.


lisah - Apr 27, 2010 5:26:52 am PDT #25406 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

it wouldn't cost much to insure and it's mechanically sound, but we don't really need it.

Why not donate it?


Vortex - Apr 27, 2010 5:27:34 am PDT #25407 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Thing is, a driver's license does not indicate citizenship. You have to produce things that discuss citizenship (birth certificate, passport, etc.), but there's no law that says that you have to be a citizen to get a license. You must be in the country legally when you get the license, but theoretically, you can get a license when you're here on a tourist visa.


Gudanov - Apr 27, 2010 5:28:50 am PDT #25408 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

Why not donate it?

If we don't buy it, it's up to my in-laws what to do with it.