Mal: Cut it out. Job's not done until we're back on Serenity. Zoe: Sorry, sir. Didn't mean to enjoy the moment.

'Ariel'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Burrell - Apr 05, 2010 2:08:26 pm PDT #21036 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I get your ire, DJ, that the representation of club workers always skews in one direction.


javachik - Apr 05, 2010 2:08:41 pm PDT #21037 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

I personally know some otherwise awesome people who definitely go to clubs with the idea of "I am HOT and you will pay to be near my hotness. You will buy me drinks to begin with; that is the price of my company." The men know it and the women know it.


Jesse - Apr 05, 2010 2:10:54 pm PDT #21038 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I get your ire, DJ, that the representation of club workers always skews in one direction.

Oh yeah, absolutely.


Stephanie - Apr 05, 2010 2:21:31 pm PDT #21039 of 30001
Trust my rage

Does anyone know if David got on his bus?


Daisy Jane - Apr 05, 2010 2:34:31 pm PDT #21040 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

In contrast I was at our (now burned down) local bar, and Jon had gone home. Struck up a lovely conversation with a couple of guys who unexpectedly bought me a drink and didn't even expect more conversation. Then our friend who usually hangs out with Jon long after I've gone home and he bought me a drink because he buys Jon a pitcher and then watched me walk home from his balcony for safety.

I've just seen too many men act like waitresses and hostesses are there for their sexual gratification. Happens less with female bartenders.


§ ita § - Apr 05, 2010 2:38:30 pm PDT #21041 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Happens less with female bartenders.

One of the women later in the article got fired because she slapped a guy who took too many liberties and she seems to be enjoying the relative innocuousness of being a bartender. I'd imagine guys think that's crazy hot, but are less likely to think you're at their disposal.

First guy ever to buy me a drink also proposed marriage to me later that night. I imagine if I'd let him actually buy me anything (it was a fountain drink, and I know for fact he was comped) I might have had a ring put on it. Because that's only fair.


JZ - Apr 05, 2010 2:40:11 pm PDT #21042 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Bus was delayed; he got on an Amtrak, which will drop him, Matilda's car seat and his computer off in Emeryville to hop on a shuttle bus to the bus terminal here, whence he'll take a cab home, hopefully by 11 PM.


Jesse - Apr 05, 2010 2:41:18 pm PDT #21043 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think Downstairs is making apple crepes or similar. On Saturday, she roasted a chicken. (I say "she" because I saw him going in from running, and that's when the chicken smell came out the door...) Mmmmmm.


brenda m - Apr 05, 2010 2:43:21 pm PDT #21044 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'd imagine guys think that's crazy hot, but are less likely to think you're at their disposal.

Most definitely.

There's a serious caste system at work in most bars/restaurants IME, from the perspective of both staff and customers.

I didn't read the article, I was responding to what Daisy said, but I stand by her outrage. I don't for a moment deny there's a lot of chicks in that line of work who are plenty skeezy. And a lot of places where that's considered a part of the job (its own issue). But articles like this just make it even harder for the women who are cocktail waitressing or otherwise working in bars who already face an expectation that objecting to being groped is some kind of offense.


Jesse - Apr 05, 2010 2:45:26 pm PDT #21045 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My takeaway from that article was not that the waitress will go home with you, but that the party promoter (etc.) will bring in girls who will.