Old trusty soda machine. I push you for root beer, you give me Coke.

Willow ,'End of Days'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Apr 05, 2010 2:38:30 pm PDT #21041 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Happens less with female bartenders.

One of the women later in the article got fired because she slapped a guy who took too many liberties and she seems to be enjoying the relative innocuousness of being a bartender. I'd imagine guys think that's crazy hot, but are less likely to think you're at their disposal.

First guy ever to buy me a drink also proposed marriage to me later that night. I imagine if I'd let him actually buy me anything (it was a fountain drink, and I know for fact he was comped) I might have had a ring put on it. Because that's only fair.


JZ - Apr 05, 2010 2:40:11 pm PDT #21042 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Bus was delayed; he got on an Amtrak, which will drop him, Matilda's car seat and his computer off in Emeryville to hop on a shuttle bus to the bus terminal here, whence he'll take a cab home, hopefully by 11 PM.


Jesse - Apr 05, 2010 2:41:18 pm PDT #21043 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think Downstairs is making apple crepes or similar. On Saturday, she roasted a chicken. (I say "she" because I saw him going in from running, and that's when the chicken smell came out the door...) Mmmmmm.


brenda m - Apr 05, 2010 2:43:21 pm PDT #21044 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'd imagine guys think that's crazy hot, but are less likely to think you're at their disposal.

Most definitely.

There's a serious caste system at work in most bars/restaurants IME, from the perspective of both staff and customers.

I didn't read the article, I was responding to what Daisy said, but I stand by her outrage. I don't for a moment deny there's a lot of chicks in that line of work who are plenty skeezy. And a lot of places where that's considered a part of the job (its own issue). But articles like this just make it even harder for the women who are cocktail waitressing or otherwise working in bars who already face an expectation that objecting to being groped is some kind of offense.


Jesse - Apr 05, 2010 2:45:26 pm PDT #21045 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My takeaway from that article was not that the waitress will go home with you, but that the party promoter (etc.) will bring in girls who will.


Polter-Cow - Apr 05, 2010 2:46:28 pm PDT #21046 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Matilda's car seat and his computer off in Emeryville to hop on a shuttle bus to the bus terminal here, whence he'll take a cab home, hopefully by 11 PM.

When is he getting into Emeryville? I could pick him up and bring him to you. It would probably get him home faster.


javachik - Apr 05, 2010 2:55:45 pm PDT #21047 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

P-C, that's nice! I would have offered something along the same lines, but I've got longstanding plans tonight to take a friend out for her birthday (we're seeing Patty Griffin in Berkeley).


Connie Neil - Apr 05, 2010 2:56:56 pm PDT #21048 of 30001
brillig

Is the car being abandoned in Bakersfield? If so, you'll want to get the plates off of it before someone decides you should sponsor their next crime spree.


Cass - Apr 05, 2010 2:57:29 pm PDT #21049 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

There is also a huge difference between a neighborhood bar or even upscale bar and the clubs offering bottle service being discussed in that article.

Waitresses bring you drinks and you tip them for this service.

Bottle waitresses, hostesses, whatever bring more than drinks, even if you want to make it as tame as possible and say they bring charming conversation for your entertainment.

If what you do for your "clients" is bring them bottles of alcohol, drugs and girls then you are not just a waitress. It's apples and oranges to me.


§ ita § - Apr 05, 2010 2:57:50 pm PDT #21050 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My takeaway from that article was not that the waitress will go home with you, but that the party promoter (etc.) will bring in girls who will.

Absolutely. I mean, life sounded miserable for a lot of the waitresses, but they weren't the ones doing most of the putting out.

If you buy bottle service, you can get women, but you'll have to buy them too. Sometimes for sex, sometimes for GFE, but if you read the article it really paints people with a nasty brush. There are no "clean" people in that article of either gender. Though I give props to the woman that got out.