I think what my daughter's trying to say is: nyah nyah nyah nyah.

Joyce ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cass - Apr 05, 2010 1:48:12 pm PDT #21026 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Makes me so very fucking angry. Women who work in clubs are not prostitutes. Not even close. And it's the attitude that they're damn near prostitutes is what makes working in that industry so frustrating for many women even as it's the easiest employment to get and likely to help out through rough times. I can't even read the rest it makes me that angry.

Don't read the rest of the article. Because not all women working in clubs are damn near prostitutes but a lot of the women in the article? Are. In their own words. Um, I have got to stop blog hopping. It's depressing me.

The other random thing I was thinking about the beginning of that story was, wasn't it the "nice girl" on Las Vegas who was the VIP Host?

Sam? aka Vanessa Marcil? aka the OMG HOTTEST FEMALE EVER? She was shown as flirty but nothing more. Others were, as I recall, much more predatory. Then again, I wasn't really watching for plot. I just think she's very pretty and plays complicated and emotionally messed up characters well.


Jesse - Apr 05, 2010 1:51:02 pm PDT #21027 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Sam? aka Vanessa Marcil?

Yeah, I guess so? Anyway, my point being that the show didn't make VIP Host anything sleazy, just a stepped-up concierge. But the clients were sometimes sleazy.

For reals? Las Vegas? For shame.

What are you trying to say? That show was cute.


Steph L. - Apr 05, 2010 1:56:05 pm PDT #21028 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

§ ita § - Apr 05, 2010 1:59:01 pm PDT #21029 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What are you trying to say?

I judge. With love, but I judge. Then again, I totally never got Vanessa Marcil (residual 90210 resentment?) or Josh Duhamel, though James Lesure was cool. Still, not enough, and Ima keep judging.


Jesse - Apr 05, 2010 2:00:28 pm PDT #21030 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ooh, that's a nice picture, Nora.


Daisy Jane - Apr 05, 2010 2:02:49 pm PDT #21031 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

As you probably can figure I know a lot of women who work in clubs. It's one of the last bastions of hardcore sexual harrassment, and attitudes like that writer's are why.

ita, I hope you don't think I'm angry at you for posting it. I just hate the patriarchy on display in that article and in a lot of clubs.


brenda m - Apr 05, 2010 2:03:02 pm PDT #21032 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Tiger had texted about walking in on with DB

Boreanaz? Or another DB I'm not thinking of?


Cass - Apr 05, 2010 2:05:32 pm PDT #21033 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I totally never got Vanessa Marcil (residual 90210 resentment?)

I have residual Brenda issues... I'm not proud.

though James Lesure was cool.

So much.


Stephanie - Apr 05, 2010 2:05:47 pm PDT #21034 of 30001
Trust my rage

Nope - apparently she has been associated with David Boreanaz.


§ ita § - Apr 05, 2010 2:07:36 pm PDT #21035 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Boreanaz? Or another DB I'm not thinking of?

Yeah, him. Apparently she had a thing with him before or during her thing with Tiger.

attitudes like that writer's are why

I didn't get the impression the writer thought all women that worked in clubs went pay for play, or that they thought it was right, but you're probably more sensitive to the text than I am.

I have residual Brenda issues... I'm not proud.

Ha. Okay, I feel a little less bad. They need to revamp themselves the way Brian Austin Green or Luke Perry did.