I think Downstairs is making apple crepes or similar. On Saturday, she roasted a chicken. (I say "she" because I saw him going in from running, and that's when the chicken smell came out the door...) Mmmmmm.

I'd imagine guys think that's crazy hot, but are less likely to think you're at their disposal.

Most definitely.

There's a serious caste system at work in most bars/restaurants IME, from the perspective of both staff and customers.

I didn't read the article, I was responding to what Daisy said, but I stand by her outrage. I don't for a moment deny there's a lot of chicks in that line of work who are plenty skeezy. And a lot of places where that's considered a part of the job (its own issue). But articles like this just make it even harder for the women who are cocktail waitressing or otherwise working in bars who already face an expectation that objecting to being groped is some kind of offense.

My takeaway from that article was not that the waitress will go home with you, but that the party promoter (etc.) will bring in girls who will.

Matilda's car seat and his computer off in Emeryville to hop on a shuttle bus to the bus terminal here, whence he'll take a cab home, hopefully by 11 PM.

When is he getting into Emeryville? I could pick him up and bring him to you. It would probably get him home faster.

P-C, that's nice! I would have offered something along the same lines, but I've got longstanding plans tonight to take a friend out for her birthday (we're seeing Patty Griffin in Berkeley).

Is the car being abandoned in Bakersfield? If so, you'll want to get the plates off of it before someone decides you should sponsor their next crime spree.

There is also a huge difference between a neighborhood bar or even upscale bar and the clubs offering bottle service being discussed in that article.

Waitresses bring you drinks and you tip them for this service.

Bottle waitresses, hostesses, whatever bring more than drinks, even if you want to make it as tame as possible and say they bring charming conversation for your entertainment.

If what you do for your "clients" is bring them bottles of alcohol, drugs and girls then you are not just a waitress. It's apples and oranges to me.

My takeaway from that article was not that the waitress will go home with you, but that the party promoter (etc.) will bring in girls who will.

Absolutely. I mean, life sounded miserable for a lot of the waitresses, but they weren't the ones doing most of the putting out.

If you buy bottle service, you can get women, but you'll have to buy them too. Sometimes for sex, sometimes for GFE, but if you read the article it really paints people with a nasty brush. There are no "clean" people in that article of either gender. Though I give props to the woman that got out.

P-C, 9:45. Is that too late? That would be godly of you. In return, I'll...I don't even know. Let me call your grandma and I'll wear the damn necklace.

Connie, it's been sold for parts, all official-like. We got a whopping $150 for it. I'm certain the chop shop that bought it will make that back five or ten times over, but whatever.

but if you read the article it really paints people with a nasty brush.

So much. That really was my takeaway - people are awful and creepy all around.