When I was a stripper, there were guys who wanted to buy presents for girls. They liked feeling like big shots, I think. There were also girls who cajoled and teased and subtly created invisible ground rules which resulted in gifts. They got lots of gifts (clothes, money, jewelry, once a car), without sleeping with anyone, because they worked it. Even though most women in clubs are not THAT type, that is still where you will find them, because that's where the dudes with the money are.
Harken: You fought with Captain Reynolds in the war? Zoe: Fought with a lot of people in the war. Harken: And your husband? Zoe: Fight with him sometimes, too.
'Bushwhacked'
Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Scrappy - Apr 05, 2010 1:39:36 pm PDT #21022 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Jesse - Apr 05, 2010 1:41:24 pm PDT #21023 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
The other random thing I was thinking about the beginning of that story was, wasn't it the "nice girl" on Las Vegas who was the VIP Host?
Nora Deirdre - Apr 05, 2010 1:41:28 pm PDT #21024 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
Because Goodbye is closed, I thought I'd mention over here that even though Tom and I didn't participate, we got a package in the mail today that was postmarked from a Secret Santa in Oakland- it was a beautiful engraved frame with a lovely verse that references the awesomeness and specialness of our trip to San Francisco.
Now we have to pick out which picture to put in it! (ETA: maybe this?)
Thank you, Oakland Secret Santa!
§ ita § - Apr 05, 2010 1:45:23 pm PDT #21025 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
wasn't it the "nice girl" on Las Vegas who was the VIP Host?
For reals? Las Vegas? For shame. Not that I really know anything about that show except when it xovered with Crossing Jordan. So perhaps I should be quieter.
All I could think about at the start of the article was that this was the woman Tiger had texted about walking in on with DB (a fantasy of his, not that it happened). Luckily the subject matter drew me away from that.
Run, query, run! Hie thee to completion!
Cass - Apr 05, 2010 1:48:12 pm PDT #21026 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Makes me so very fucking angry. Women who work in clubs are not prostitutes. Not even close. And it's the attitude that they're damn near prostitutes is what makes working in that industry so frustrating for many women even as it's the easiest employment to get and likely to help out through rough times. I can't even read the rest it makes me that angry.
Don't read the rest of the article. Because not all women working in clubs are damn near prostitutes but a lot of the women in the article? Are. In their own words. Um, I have got to stop blog hopping. It's depressing me.
The other random thing I was thinking about the beginning of that story was, wasn't it the "nice girl" on Las Vegas who was the VIP Host?
Sam? aka Vanessa Marcil? aka the OMG HOTTEST FEMALE EVER? She was shown as flirty but nothing more. Others were, as I recall, much more predatory. Then again, I wasn't really watching for plot. I just think she's very pretty and plays complicated and emotionally messed up characters well.
Jesse - Apr 05, 2010 1:51:02 pm PDT #21027 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Sam? aka Vanessa Marcil?
Yeah, I guess so? Anyway, my point being that the show didn't make VIP Host anything sleazy, just a stepped-up concierge. But the clients were sometimes sleazy.
For reals? Las Vegas? For shame.
What are you trying to say? That show was cute.
Steph L. - Apr 05, 2010 1:56:05 pm PDT #21028 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
§ ita § - Apr 05, 2010 1:59:01 pm PDT #21029 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
What are you trying to say?
I judge. With love, but I judge. Then again, I totally never got Vanessa Marcil (residual 90210 resentment?) or Josh Duhamel, though James Lesure was cool. Still, not enough, and Ima keep judging.
Jesse - Apr 05, 2010 2:00:28 pm PDT #21030 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Ooh, that's a nice picture, Nora.
Daisy Jane - Apr 05, 2010 2:02:49 pm PDT #21031 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
As you probably can figure I know a lot of women who work in clubs. It's one of the last bastions of hardcore sexual harrassment, and attitudes like that writer's are why.
ita, I hope you don't think I'm angry at you for posting it. I just hate the patriarchy on display in that article and in a lot of clubs.