In my experience, they don't even need to say it to hear *unprompted* that they're wrong, and this is living in one of the more secular bubbles in the US.
Whoops. Yeah, I got that even in "we don't talk about personal things"-riffic MN.
Xander: I still don't get why we came here to get info about a killer snot monster. Giles: Because it's a killer snot monster from outer space. I did not say that.
'Never Leave Me'
Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.
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juliana - Dec 10, 2009 10:04:59 am PST #3023 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
P.M. Marc - Dec 10, 2009 10:05:30 am PST #3024 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
But there's a double-standard there, isn't there? Saying "Prayer is magical thinking" is interpreted as disrespect towards religion, but saying "Prayer is real" is accepted as a neutral statement of religious belief.
I think Dawkins and others have made this exact point, with varying levels of frustration.
(Ahahaha. I've just realized I'm a culturally atheist vague theist. There are so many levels of hard to explain there.)
Sophia Brooks - Dec 10, 2009 10:06:25 am PST #3025 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
I'm a 9, but I bet I could wear 'em with chunky cocks.
It took me so long to figure out what you meant here! I am dying of laughter!
Strix - Dec 10, 2009 10:06:58 am PST #3026 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
OMG, SOCKS!!
Jon Stewart CLEARLY is at fault.
JZ - Dec 10, 2009 10:07:37 am PST #3027 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
I bet I could wear 'em with chunky cocks.
BEST TYPO EVER.
And I'll need about an hour -- I left them at home so I'll have to run down there to check (pretty sure Hec is out and about selling things and Emmett is home but doped and flu-y).
Vortex - Dec 10, 2009 10:11:21 am PST #3028 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
But there's a double-standard there, isn't there? Saying "Prayer is magical thinking" is interpreted as disrespect towards religion, but saying "Prayer is real" is accepted as a neutral statement of religious belief.
I definitely see your point, maybe intent is the key here. A atheist who says "prayer is magical thinking" knows and either intends to or doesn't care about offending the believer, while saying "prayer is real" is not intended to offend.
(and FTR, I am engaging in an intellectual exercise here. I absolutely respect everyone's belief or lack thereof. I suppose that technically, I'm Christian, so am biased in that direction, but am trying to be neutral :) )
P.M. Marc - Dec 10, 2009 10:13:22 am PST #3029 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I definitely see your point, maybe intent is the key here. A atheist who says "prayer is magical thinking" knows and either intends to or doesn't care about offending the believer, while saying "prayer is real" is not intended to offend.
Saying prayer is real can only be read as not intended to offend if you assume religion as the default state of humanity. It's a function of religious privilege in that respect.
smonster - Dec 10, 2009 10:13:32 am PST #3030 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
nothin' to see, move along.
erikaj - Dec 10, 2009 10:13:33 am PST #3031 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!
I don't know... I think it sounds like magic when you are talking to someone who feels they need to ask God whether to turn left or right or something. But that may not be because I'm a religious skeptic...that might be a very Lutheran thought, or at least via Lake Wobegon it is.(all of GK's Lutheran jokes seem about spot-on from here.) But I wouldn't say that asking God for help with something is like waiting for the tooth fairy or something...heck, I ask myself. You never know. I might hug it out with the divine eventually...the Eastern stuff helps some, but I'd feel like a poser trying to convert(I admire George Harrison very much for that. Also for not deciding in the mid-seventies that India was so last year.)
Strix - Dec 10, 2009 10:15:13 am PST #3032 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Dinna fash yerself, JZ.
No hurry. I don't have Paypal, but I can offer $30 for 'em and shipping. You get better than that, you take it, and give Deb my love and good wishes.