My response is, "I have another obligation."A very valuable phrase when a freelancer. You must use that on all occasions, so when you schedule a vacation, you don't accidentally add, "I'm on vacation at that time".
You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.
River ,'Objects In Space'
Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
omnis_audis - Aug 23, 2010 10:23:07 am PDT #29615 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir
Polter-Cow - Aug 23, 2010 10:24:37 am PDT #29616 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Badly timed crosspost with PC which illustrates that he did not need me to make my point. It's a point in its own right though, so I will leave it.
It is a good point, thank you! I appreciate it. Here, I will give you a bonus exchange:
"We have to get this document out by the end of the year so we can meet our corporate goals."
"You're really that important, huh?"
"I'm glad you think so highly of me."
"That's not what I meant! You're just talking like if you left, the whole company would fall apart."
<facepalm>
As my brother noted, "Mexican would have been the WORST."
("How many times did we tell you when you were growing up, no BMW?" my dad told him last week in all seriousness, as if he were truly saddened and dismayed that his attempt to instill his racist values in us had failed. [BMW = Black, Mexican, Muslim, and White.])
javachik - Aug 23, 2010 10:25:48 am PDT #29617 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
P-C, your parents depress me. I hate hearing about that level of bigotry.
JZ - Aug 23, 2010 10:32:56 am PDT #29618 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
P-C, your parents depress me. I hate hearing about that level of bigotry.
And yet it's heartening to see how completely and utterly they've failed to pass it down to the next generation. I think of how hugely my parents loomed in my childhood world, how large they still loom, how vast and universal we are to Matilda...it's brutally hard, heroic work to push back against all that, carve out your own vision for yourself and a different way of seeing and connecting to the world around you, and stand up for it and stay strong when the blowback comes.
Fred Pete - Aug 23, 2010 10:33:35 am PDT #29619 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.
That dialogue is priceless. And painful.
Some truly great sitcoms did both, and then some. M*A*S*H could do it brilliantly.
javachik - Aug 23, 2010 10:33:58 am PDT #29620 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
Yep, you're right, JZ.
Polter-Cow - Aug 23, 2010 10:39:48 am PDT #29621 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
And yet it's heartening to see how completely and utterly they've failed to pass it down to the next generation.
I wouldn't say "completely and utterly." But I am at least conscious of my unconscious racism and prejudices and don't intend to let it continue further.
One of the ideas I've been fascinated with recently is the fact that, growing up, you only know the world that is presented to you. That is what you think is normal, the Way Things Are. And your parents are the people who present the world to you and tell you the Way Things Are. It can be quite a shock to discover that your experience and views are not universal.
Aims - Aug 23, 2010 10:41:52 am PDT #29622 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
the fact that, growing up, you only know the world that is presented to you. That is what you think is normal, the Way Things Are. And your parents are the people who present the world to you and tell you the Way Things Are.
It's one of the reasons that children who are abused don't tell anyone - they thinks it's "normal" because for them, it is.
amyth - Aug 23, 2010 10:45:24 am PDT #29623 of 30000
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen
Definitely, JZ. My parents were racist, particularly my mom, but it's hard for me to hold much animosity in my heart for a woman who has been dead for twenty years now, and who, above all, raised me to think for myself.
In addition to that, she had two gorgeous, smart multiracial grandchildren. She may not have approved of my brother's marriage, but she went to the wedding, and babysat for those kids, and she didn't live to see it, but they grew up to vote for Obama, whom they identified with in ways that I can only imagine.
But I am at least conscious of my unconscious racism and prejudices and don't intend to let it continue further.
One of the ideas I've been fascinated with recently is the fact that, growing up, you only know the world that is presented to you. That is what you think is normal, the Way Things Are. And your parents are the people who present the world to you and tell you the Way Things Are. It can be quite a shock to discover that your experience and views are not universal.
This is so true, P-C. This is something my brothers and I have spent a lot of time thinking about and struggling with in our own ways, with a generational divide between us. I think my brothers had a lot of trouble dealing with my parents as adults because of their racism. I never had to deal with my parents in such a complex way.
Connie Neil - Aug 23, 2010 10:53:15 am PDT #29624 of 30000
brillig
I'm kind of grateful that my father died before I learned of any possible bigotries or such. I can maintain my probably idealized version of him in my head.