Xander: I do have Spaghetti-os. Set 'em on top of the dryer and you're a fluff cycle away from lukewarm goodness. Riley: I, uh, had dryer-food for lunch.

'Same Time, Same Place'


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WindSparrow - Jul 24, 2010 4:41:54 pm PDT #26535 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I don't really have anything but generic woman-on-the-street sympathy.

That is as much as you owe her, erika. And from what you say, the fact that you are not rejoicing in her pain, or gleeful at the thought of her potential demise says a lot for you not being a psychopath.

A good friend called recently to say that she wants me to get another dog soon. Not because I need more stuff to do, but because she fears for me when it is time for Bartleby to go. She's right to be concerned. I honestly don't know how I'll react. But getting another dog now doesn't seem the right solution. We've got a crazy good thing going on and I'm not going to tamper with that out of fear.

It will hurt like hell, bonny. You will need your friends' love and care. And you know that you will have a ton of it from here. And when the time is right for another dog to come into your life, you will know - be it before or soon after, or long after.


brenda m - Jul 24, 2010 4:56:56 pm PDT #26536 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

She's right to be concerned. I honestly don't know how I'll react. But getting another dog now doesn't seem the right solution.

Losing Lucy wrecked me. I'm still wrecked. It was 18 months (to the day, coincidentally) between her and Darb and it took me that long to just be ready to make a connection again.

One of my coworkers lost a beloved dog not long after Lucy, after a similarly long period of intense care, and she got a new puppy within a week.

I don't think you'll know or have any way of knowing where you'll be ahead of time, so I'd say do what's best for B and you now, and follow your gut when the time comes.


§ ita § - Jul 24, 2010 4:57:26 pm PDT #26537 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The object of the darshan, I would think, doesn't really have to have any particulra qualities or even be aware of the effect.

Then I don't think it's darshan anymore, because that's not how the article defined it--it said holy, and it referred to an exchange. It would be some other ineffable charge of shared experience.

Which I have no beef with. It's precisely the idolisation and the transfer/depletion with a celebrity that bother me, especially if the celebrity buys into the pedestal. They're famous, not special.


Zenkitty - Jul 24, 2010 5:21:36 pm PDT #26538 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

In "I Am Not Spock" Leonard Nimoy related the story of a woman who asked him to touch her sick child so the kid's illness would be healed. She wasn't asking Spock, she was asking Nimoy. Nimoy didn't believe in his darshan, but that woman sure did. I love the concept, by the way. That;s how I felt about the chance to meet the Dalai Lama (which I ended up not getting to do). I just wanted to catch his glance and find out if it felt the way I imagined it would. But that's the Dalai Lama, who is arguably holy, not a celebrity. I think if darshan is something everyone has or could have, if one were holy, darshan would be a nigh-unlimited resource, but if one were not holy, one's darshan could be depleted and one would have to rest. Or take some darshan from a holy person. I think I'm getting the plot of a novel here.


-t - Jul 24, 2010 5:23:37 pm PDT #26539 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's a fair reading. I can't really sign off on the depletion aspect, so if that's part of the definition, I guess I don't have much use for the concept. I like having a word to attach to that desire for presence and sight, though.


Zenkitty - Jul 24, 2010 5:25:37 pm PDT #26540 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Maybe darshan is like blood. You give some away, and then you grow it back.


Typo Boy - Jul 24, 2010 5:28:04 pm PDT #26541 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Erika, as others have said, being "woman on the street" sympathetic to someone who treated you as badly as she did is more than enough. Many quite decent people would not feel that much sympathy.


Cashmere - Jul 24, 2010 5:28:11 pm PDT #26542 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

NoiseDesign, one of the refs at this bout is skating in a Utilikilt.


Hil R. - Jul 24, 2010 5:28:24 pm PDT #26543 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I bought a big case of quart-size canning jars last summer, planning to make pickles and sauerkraut and all kinds of stuff, and ended up doing absolutely nothing with them. I made some stuff in the pint and half-pint jars, but nothing in the quart ones. In packing up my kitchen, I was trying to decide whether to take the jars with me, in the hopes that I'll sometime actually make quart jars of something, or to just admit defeat. Someone just posted on Freecycle looking for canning jars. I'm giving them to her -- someone who's specifically looking for them is probably going to use them, and it's better than they be used then that they just sit around.


-t - Jul 24, 2010 5:37:42 pm PDT #26544 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I keep remembering the guy who founded Nairopa: he was an alcoholic and a womanizer and generally problematic, yet he was also somehow an important spiritual teacher for a lot of people who would have that kind of awe in his presence. I never met him or anything, but i've met people who he taught, and they seem to have genuinely gained something from the association. Of he also lost something, well, I don't know but I doubt it. But I could be entirely wrong.

Good call giving away the jars, Hil. Bulky and easily replaced if you find you want them.