Oh, wow. This place looks great. Oh, I feel like a witch in a magic shop.

Willow ,'Help'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Sep 30, 2009 7:29:50 am PDT #11541 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

A quick glance at their front page says "right-wing crackpot" to me - a big splashy Glen Beck promo, and featured blogs by Dr Laura and Rush Limbaugh's brother.


erikaj - Sep 30, 2009 7:34:02 am PDT #11542 of 30001
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

Newsmax thinks it is the RW Media Matters. It is chock-full of truthiness and Keith Olbermann diva stories.


Jessica - Sep 30, 2009 7:42:32 am PDT #11543 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Meanwhile, CNN is trying to take the NYT's "Women's Issues: Who Needs Relevance?" crown away with their stunning expose on Why Women Have Sex:

What makes a woman want to have sex? Is it physical attraction? Love? Loneliness? Jealousy? Boredom? Painful menstrual cramps?

It turns out that woman have sex for all of these reasons and more, and that their choices are not arbitrary; there may be evolutionary explanations at work.

ZOMG! It's almost as if women are PEOPLE!!! With AGENCY!!!

Buss said he found it surprising how dramatically and variably sexual experience seemed to influence women's feelings of self-esteem.

"Some sexual experiences that women in our study reported just had devastating effects and long-lasting negative effects on their feelings of self-worth," he said. "But then for others, their sexual experiences provided the soaring height of euphoria and made them feel alive and vibrant."

Hold the phone - SOMETIMES SEX IS GOOD AND OTHER TIMES IT IS NOT, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. I cannot wait to see the groundbreaking scientific research behind this momentous discovery. Truly, this deserves a Nobel Prize.


Kat - Sep 30, 2009 7:43:21 am PDT #11544 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Debet, I can see where the intersection between the play and the current news might be. I think the play is really brilliant and extremely funny. And it's a good play because it is sitting with me and forcing me to think about it. But every character minus maybe 1 which was a blank slate and maybe another is just so unlikeable, so ugh.

I'm pretty sure, I wouldn't see it again. But I can't stop mulling it over.


Fred Pete - Sep 30, 2009 7:45:01 am PDT #11545 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I've known at least one military person to advocate a military coup (to put Bush in office) as the solution to the 2000 election mess. This was after he advocated a military coup to make Ross Perot president in 1992. So the idea that some military personnel would support a military coup against Obama doesn't surprise me. (Note: No attempts to define "some" here. It may be a handful of crackpots, it may be more, I won't offer an opinion.)

But that Newsmax essay, as reprinted, goes well beyond saying, "A military coup is possible," and actually advocates such a thing.


DebetEsse - Sep 30, 2009 7:49:49 am PDT #11546 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Kat, given how long it is, seeing it again would be a heck of an investment. There's definitely a lot of unlikability to go around, although, for most of the characters, it was a realistic unlikability, IMO. I know people who would make many of those choices.


Trudy Booth - Sep 30, 2009 7:53:00 am PDT #11547 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Meanwhile, CNN is trying to take the NYT's "Women's Issues: Who Needs Relevance?" crown away with their stunning expose on Why Women Have Sex:

Well, I don't know why women have sex, but teenage girls "do it" to keep their boyfriends, because they have low self-esteem, or due to poor relationships with their fathers.

I can't imagine much would change just because they become so-called adults.


Steph L. - Sep 30, 2009 7:53:39 am PDT #11548 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Hold the phone - SOMETIMES SEX IS GOOD AND OTHER TIMES IT IS NOT, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. I cannot wait to see the groundbreaking scientific research behind this momentous discovery. Truly, this deserves a Nobel Prize.

Did someone get a research grant for this? Seriously? "Why do the wimmens have sex?"?!?

Answer: gotta have something to do when we stop shopping and painting our nails. Tee hee.


Amy - Sep 30, 2009 7:56:16 am PDT #11549 of 30001
Because books.

Hold the phone - SOMETIMES SEX IS GOOD AND OTHER TIMES IT IS NOT, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

I DID NOT KNOW THAT! Wow, I'm grateful to those researchers. I feel so enlightened now.


msbelle - Sep 30, 2009 7:58:02 am PDT #11550 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

to get money from the grown up boy man who has the job and makes the money!! next up on my wishlist - bigger boobs!

oh wait, I'm single and support myself.