What is it with girls in boxes?
All the refrigerators were full up?
I don't care if it is an orgy of death, there's still such a thing as a napkin.
Willow ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'
Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers
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Kristen - Oct 12, 2010 9:40:28 pm PDT #2803 of 5827
Cass - Oct 12, 2010 9:51:23 pm PDT #2804 of 5827
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
All the refrigerators were full up?
Pretty much, yes. That is exactly what it feels like.
I mean, the boxes are more visually interesting than refrigerators, but I am pretty sure that is not the improvement that *I* was hoping to see.
These are people that I think are talented and can treat women as people. Why do we keep going back to women in boxes? It's frustrating to me.
Polter-Cow - Oct 12, 2010 10:45:38 pm PDT #2805 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Who is, do you think? Cuz it ain't me either. I never want to see that again in my life.
Yeah, I am not usually offended or squicked by things, but I just couldn't believe what the fuck I was watching and did not understand why someone would make that and want people to watch it.
DavidS - Oct 13, 2010 6:12:28 am PDT #2806 of 5827
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
but I just couldn't believe what the fuck I was watching and did not understand why someone would make that and want people to watch it.
I can't believe they're so tone deaf on the issue. It's that kind of shit that killed Dollhouse before it got a chance to get any audience traction.
§ ita § - Oct 13, 2010 6:15:26 am PDT #2807 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Technically, I don't know if it's the "they", but the issues are still totally valid.
smonster - Oct 13, 2010 7:31:56 am PDT #2808 of 5827
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
I don't think they're making the statement they think they are, they being Zack Whedon and Melissa T.
Polter-Cow - Oct 13, 2010 7:52:50 am PDT #2809 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
And Anton King, the director of the video, also credited with the "story."
I think I can see what they were going for, but it was just so baffling to watch. The way it was presented, I think, was not critical enough of what we were seeing, which gave a sense of implicit complicity.
Okay, I just made up that last phrase because it sounded cool.
§ ita § - Oct 13, 2010 7:54:05 am PDT #2810 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
But it had a happy ending, see! The damaged doll gets a homeless man of her very own. I don't see why you guys are bitching.
Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Oct 13, 2010 7:58:39 am PDT #2811 of 5827
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
The way it was presented, I think, was not critical enough of what we were seeing, which gave a sense of implicit complicity.
There were quite a lot of moments of that in Dollhouse.
Laga - Oct 13, 2010 8:26:50 am PDT #2812 of 5827
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
If that was the story they wanted to tell, is there a way to tell it that would be less offensive? Is it because we associate those actors with human dolls that it's hard to see the girl in the box as not human?