If that was the story they wanted to tell, is there a way to tell it that would be less offensive? Is it because we associate those actors with human dolls that it's hard to see the girl in the box as not human?
Well, quite a lot of fuss. If I didn't know better, I'd think we were dangerous.
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Laga - Oct 13, 2010 8:26:50 am PDT #2812 of 5827
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
§ ita § - Oct 13, 2010 8:29:25 am PDT #2813 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Is it because we associate those actors with human dolls that it's hard to see the girl in the box as not human?
I didn't see her as human at all. I figured if you come in a box with styrofoam peanuts, you're a robot. But that doesn't mean you're not an offensive story.
smonster - Oct 13, 2010 8:53:17 am PDT #2814 of 5827
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
Is it because we associate those actors with human dolls that it's hard to see the girl in the box as not human?
The objectification (meaning "making into an object") of women or any other group is the first step to justifying abuse and murder. Women are replaceable! You can just get a new one when one wears out/gets old/is damaged! For more info on this trope across time, watch any one of Sut Jhally's "Dreamworlds" documentaries.
le nubian - Oct 13, 2010 9:23:09 am PDT #2815 of 5827
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I don't see why you guys are bitching.
I know, right?
Laga, what is the story that they wanted to tell, though? I would say that the story itself is incredibly problematic, not just the visuals. If you wanted to tell a story about robots being discarded, then why not have quick clips to a woman doing the same thing to a male robot. I'm not sure I would have found it a whole lot better, but at least we wouldn't have only seen the boxing of a "woman."
Is the story about materialism? Well, I've seen that issue depicted better in ways that did not involve robots.
Is the story about robot love? Also seen depicted better in previous film/video.
DCJensen - Oct 14, 2010 7:26:00 pm PDT #2816 of 5827
All is well that ends in pizza.
Heartbeeps with Andy Kaufman and Bernadette Peters?
§ ita § - Nov 19, 2010 3:55:10 pm PST #2817 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I didn't know there were lyrics to the Dollhouse theme song: vid.
Ginger - Nov 29, 2010 2:34:48 am PST #2818 of 5827
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
Best Buy has Dollhouse for $9.99 [link] in its cybermonday specials.
Rayne - Nov 29, 2010 8:56:42 am PST #2819 of 5827
"Oh no! Has falling sky liquid once again caused you the sadness?" -Starfire
I'm hoping to find a good deal on Dollhouse season 2, but haven't found anything so far.
sumi - Dec 22, 2010 7:36:01 pm PST #2820 of 5827
Art Crawl!!!
Undercovers has a mini-Dollhouse reunion: Harry Lennix AND Enver Gjokaj.
Polter-Cow - Mar 16, 2011 8:44:50 am PDT #2821 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!