'Serenity'
TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.
Who is, do you think? Cuz it ain't me either. I never want to see that again in my life.
Yeah, I am not usually offended or squicked by things, but I just couldn't believe what the fuck I was watching and did not understand why someone would make that and want people to watch it.
but I just couldn't believe what the fuck I was watching and did not understand why someone would make that and want people to watch it.
I can't believe they're so tone deaf on the issue. It's that kind of shit that killed Dollhouse before it got a chance to get any audience traction.
Technically, I don't know if it's the "they", but the issues are still totally valid.
I don't think they're making the statement they think they are, they being Zack Whedon and Melissa T.
And Anton King, the director of the video, also credited with the "story."
I think I can see what they were going for, but it was just so baffling to watch. The way it was presented, I think, was not critical enough of what we were seeing, which gave a sense of implicit complicity.
Okay, I just made up that last phrase because it sounded cool.
But it had a happy ending, see! The damaged doll gets a homeless man of her very own. I don't see why you guys are bitching.
The way it was presented, I think, was not critical enough of what we were seeing, which gave a sense of implicit complicity.
There were quite a lot of moments of that in Dollhouse.
If that was the story they wanted to tell, is there a way to tell it that would be less offensive? Is it because we associate those actors with human dolls that it's hard to see the girl in the box as not human?
Is it because we associate those actors with human dolls that it's hard to see the girl in the box as not human?
I didn't see her as human at all. I figured if you come in a box with styrofoam peanuts, you're a robot. But that doesn't mean you're not an offensive story.
Is it because we associate those actors with human dolls that it's hard to see the girl in the box as not human?
The objectification (meaning "making into an object") of women or any other group is the first step to justifying abuse and murder. Women are replaceable! You can just get a new one when one wears out/gets old/is damaged! For more info on this trope across time, watch any one of Sut Jhally's "Dreamworlds" documentaries.