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Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Una - Jan 16, 2010 10:03:04 am PST #2578 of 5827
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

I love Topher!Victor (or is it Victor!Topher? SHOW, YOU ARE CONFUSING) so damn much. I'm wondering if Fran looped his lines (like they had Summer do young!River in Serenity). Either way, I can't believe we only get one more hour of Enver. Does he have fifteen thousand job offers yet?

For all the explosives strapped to Boyd (waaaah!), that building was still surprisingly intact...


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jan 16, 2010 10:20:24 am PST #2579 of 5827
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

This felt like that sort of series finale, except that there's actually a whole other chapter left.

Yes, that was how I felt about this. It was a bit of a let-down. As a season finale, if there were many more seasons left of the series, it would have been pretty good (despite the plot holes). As resolution to the 'Who is Rossum?' arc, it was disappointing. Not overwhelmingly exciting - despite some excellent moments.

I didn't think Dollhouse would make me cry, but doll!Boyd teared me right up.

That was one of those moments.

If I'm not looking at the screen I can't tell the difference between Topher and Victor!Topher.

How incredible was Enver's performance? Even though I wasn't sure what the point of making him Topher again was, really, plot-wise. As much as it was fun.

Amy Acker is so great. And strangely hot in a suit

Mmm-hmm. Although at times I was having trouble believing the character. Possibly that comes from the very concept of a character that isn't real. The evil felt stereotypical, but then of course it would have done. Didn't work for me, all the same.

It seemed like a big oversight on Adele's part to bring a doll with sleeper programming with on their mission.

I wondered about that. And then I wondered if Boyd had persuaded her to do so. But if that was case, it would have felt like less of a plot hole if they'd said so.

I feel - I know - there's so much to it that what's on the surface. The whole how our emotions, trust and knowledge is constructed in modernity.

Yes! There's a lot of this to reflect upon here.


Jon B. - Jan 16, 2010 5:33:59 pm PST #2580 of 5827
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Also, Clyde seemed like a decent guy in the Attic. I suppose that was only because he'd been in the Attic a while.

I thought that Attic!Clyde made a comment that the reason he was sent to the Attic was because he'd had second thoughts about what Rossum was doing. The Doll!Clydes had been "enhanced" to remove the new-found conscience.

Even though I wasn't sure what the point of making him Topher again was, really, plot-wise.

Only Topher knew about the secret video camera and how to access it.


Typo Boy - Jan 16, 2010 8:58:29 pm PST #2581 of 5827
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I guess Topher did not have time to post a note saying "Video Camera over thataway. Press the red and yellow buttons to play footage."


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jan 17, 2010 12:53:09 am PST #2582 of 5827
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I guess Topher did not have time to post a note saying "Video Camera over thataway. Press the red and yellow buttons to play footage."

Yes. That might have been a little less risky. Overall.


Jon B. - Jan 17, 2010 7:02:43 am PST #2583 of 5827
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I guess Topher did not have time to post a note saying "Video Camera over thataway. Press the red and yellow buttons to play footage."

Not such a great idea if you want to control WHO gets to know about it. If he'd done that, the secret footage would have gotten destroyed along with the known footage. But imprint Topher into a person and Doll!Topher gets to make a judgment as to whether the others with him are worthy of the knowledge.


Laga - Jan 17, 2010 8:31:18 am PST #2584 of 5827
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Plus Doll!Topher has the ability to re-imprint with ninja skills.


le nubian - Jan 17, 2010 11:05:59 am PST #2585 of 5827
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Joss apparently was in a meeting with an F/X bigwig recently. Announcement of a new show on the network forthcoming?


Frankenbuddha - Jan 17, 2010 5:09:07 pm PST #2586 of 5827
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Joss apparently was in a meeting with an F/X bigwig recently. Announcement of a new show on the network forthcoming?

Christ - it better not be a reverse Farscape.

Pretty much what everyone else said. I'm not sure why Rossum/Boyd went out of their way to nurture Topher, who would bring the brainpocylpse and Carolyn who had the marysuespinal fluid. Did he want the end of the world? Why not just put a bullet in Topher back in the day and be done with it?


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2010 5:10:31 pm PST #2587 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think he saw the tech as unavoidable and wanted to be in control of it and the means to resist it.

it better not be a reverse Farscape

What does that mean?