An emotionally mature person wouldn't try to make someone, is my feeling.

There's that, yes.

That's true

and emotionally immature. Given that he can make anyone he wants, he chooses someone who plays video games and laser tags and loves junk food.

I was going to agree, but then I realized I was posting on a "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" posting board, and realized I probably shouldn't throw stones. IJS. (:

An emotionally mature person wouldn't try to make someone, is my feeling.

Well, there is that. And while I agree (my own joke aside) that Topher's immature, that's not an adjective I'd throw at Adelle, and she made herself the perfect lover for a few repeate engagements. But again, the sex didn't seem to be the priority there, either. It's the loneliness and alienation.

Make no mistake, I think the Dollhouse is evil, and that most of our protaganists here are villains. But I appreciate that it takes a toll on them.

Make no mistake, I think the Dollhouse is evil, and that most of our protaganists here are villains. But I appreciate that it takes a toll on them.

Yeah, this. I have no thoughts on the recent ep as I'm on the road, but overall, definitely this.

The original pitch was the Dollhouse was good from Joss, but FOX wanted it to be evilish, so it changed as they went along. It's covered in that interview I linked a few pages ago.

I think we all use each other in life. The Sierra/Topher thing made me cry for this reason: I just spent the weekend messing around (erm, not that kind of messing around) with the actress, Dichen Lachman, in the UK. 'cos I paid for the experience at a convention. And then she went away. And I sit here, in my flat, alone. It was a curious feeling.

The original pitch was the Dollhouse was good from Joss, but FOX wanted it to be evilish, so it changed as they went along.

So was there no sex with dolls in the original plan?

There was sex.

I'd like to see how that would be handled with having the Dollhouse still being good. Isn't the sex part where most people think is the Dollhouse at its worst?

Given the amount of men who use brothels throughout history and buy Maxim, no?

I don't think the good or bad thing comes out of sex per say, I think it's about the Dollhouse's intentions. What is the goal of the Dollhouse as a worldwide organisation? Is it really 'just' fantasy?

I do think Dollhouse has clearly had the angles that as a society and personally we use each other - Paul and Mellie in the last episode being a classic example - and that 'perversion' is often best shared. With layers of self justification thrown on top. I don't think there's anything wrong with Topher hiring Sierra to hang around with. I mean, it's sad, but it's better than being lonely.

Given the amount of men who use brothels throughout history and buy Maxim, no?

You equate sex with a Doll with buying Maxim? Really?

it's sad, but it's better than being lonely.

How do you define "better"? As healthier? Because establishing consensual peer relationships strikes me as "better".