Yeah. He's my hero.

Mal ,'The Train Job'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Laura - Apr 25, 2009 9:39:13 am PDT #1360 of 5827
Our wings are not tired.

I've maybe enjoyed 2. There may be a couple I missed, or at least wasn't paying attention to while they were on. It is just such a disappointment.


Polter-Cow - Apr 25, 2009 9:46:11 am PDT #1361 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I've liked the latter five episodes much more than the first five. If I were being generous, I would say I was at least positive about over half of them, but if I held the show to higher standards, I would pick out about three really good episodes ("Man on the Street," "Echoes" [for the funny, although I just remembered that episode made me stop caring about Echo/Caroline], and "A Spy in the House of Love"). I might like some of those early episodes more now that I've grown more fond of the show in general.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Apr 25, 2009 9:46:11 am PDT #1362 of 5827
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I'm enjoying more episodes than not. It's probably a 60-40 ratio though. I still think it has potential, especially given the two previous episodes to this one, which I thought were proving some of that promise. Which is why this week's was such a disappointment, for me. I can see they're near - I just want them to get somewhere...

[x-posted with Polter-Cow, who said what I meant, but better.]


victor infante - Apr 25, 2009 9:51:43 am PDT #1363 of 5827
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I'm enjoying more than not, too. I was lukewarm at the beginning, but I find, as it unfurls, there's quite a bit keeping my interest.


Laura - Apr 25, 2009 9:52:14 am PDT #1364 of 5827
Our wings are not tired.

Yes, the previous 2 before this one were much better. This is likely why last night was so blah in comparison. I seem to enjoy it more with the (non-rape) action episodes. Fight scenes, things go boom, spy capers. The A story last night was just boring. I didn't care who killed Margaret.


erikaj - Apr 25, 2009 11:20:51 am PDT #1365 of 5827
Always Anti-fascist!

I think I'm with Victor. But it's only recently that I've felt that this show has potential to be more than a diverting shiny object(Not that I completely hate dso's, but I finally feel like it has more to say about identity and the roles we play in each other's lives and...stuff.) And I really came to believe that ED was Margaret. Which I didn't expect to. So, props to her for that.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 25, 2009 11:25:53 am PDT #1366 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I completely stopped thinking of Eliza as Echo (or, you know, Faith). She was REALLY good in this role.

Agreed. I think she was as good playing Margaret as she was playing Taffy in "The Gray Hour," and this time it was a big departure from her previous type. If nothing else, the mutable nature of her character is probably giving Eliza a faux-theatre training experience, which can only be good for her future career.

I've been enjoying it as the storyline has developed, but not so much that I'd have been careful to catch every episode if people other than Joss and Tim were behind it. I feel safe in saying at this point that I'm never going to love it like I did Joss' other shows.


Theodosia - Apr 25, 2009 1:26:12 pm PDT #1367 of 5827
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I really did see 'Margaret' in ED's performance, which surprised and pleased me. Although I have a problem that I don't believe somebody would be comfortable giving the body 'back' unless you laid in a whole bunch of subconscious triggers to make them do it....


le nubian - Apr 25, 2009 2:33:02 pm PDT #1368 of 5827
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm never going to love it like I did Joss' other shows.

Thank you Matt for articulating my feelings as well. I completely concur with this statement. This speaks for me.

I think the writers structured the Margaret stuff wrong. Ideally, they probably should have made that a whole ep and taken out the Helo stuff and the birthday stuff.

I think they needed to establish whether or not Margaret was murdered in the first damn place. If there had been more uncertainty about that for longer, that might have been interesting.

I think maybe too, this should have happened to a recurring character who we'd seen off and on across 3-4 eps. Since we didn't know the dead character at all, it was hard to identify with her. We saw her on screen for like 20 seconds, then boom.


brenda m - Apr 25, 2009 2:46:31 pm PDT #1369 of 5827
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I thought the Margaret character was just really badly written, though Eliza did a good job with what there was.

She's paranoid enough to make plans for her impending murder but then giggling with a friend once it happens, shocked, shocked that her rose-colored view of her life is so far from the mark (in which case, whence the paranoia), and when it turns out her son actually murdered her, "okay then, rewrite the will yay more money for everybody, okay I love you bye bye!" Seriously?