I've liked the latter five episodes much more than the first five. If I were being generous, I would say I was at least positive about over half of them, but if I held the show to higher standards, I would pick out about three really good episodes ("Man on the Street," "Echoes" [for the funny, although I just remembered that episode made me stop caring about Echo/Caroline], and "A Spy in the House of Love"). I might like some of those early episodes more now that I've grown more fond of the show in general.
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I'm enjoying more episodes than not. It's probably a 60-40 ratio though. I still think it has potential, especially given the two previous episodes to this one, which I thought were proving some of that promise. Which is why this week's was such a disappointment, for me. I can see they're near - I just want them to get somewhere...
[x-posted with Polter-Cow, who said what I meant, but better.]
I'm enjoying more than not, too. I was lukewarm at the beginning, but I find, as it unfurls, there's quite a bit keeping my interest.
Yes, the previous 2 before this one were much better. This is likely why last night was so blah in comparison. I seem to enjoy it more with the (non-rape) action episodes. Fight scenes, things go boom, spy capers. The A story last night was just boring. I didn't care who killed Margaret.
I think I'm with Victor. But it's only recently that I've felt that this show has potential to be more than a diverting shiny object(Not that I completely hate dso's, but I finally feel like it has more to say about identity and the roles we play in each other's lives and...stuff.) And I really came to believe that ED was Margaret. Which I didn't expect to. So, props to her for that.
I completely stopped thinking of Eliza as Echo (or, you know, Faith). She was REALLY good in this role.
Agreed. I think she was as good playing Margaret as she was playing Taffy in "The Gray Hour," and this time it was a big departure from her previous type. If nothing else, the mutable nature of her character is probably giving Eliza a faux-theatre training experience, which can only be good for her future career.
I've been enjoying it as the storyline has developed, but not so much that I'd have been careful to catch every episode if people other than Joss and Tim were behind it. I feel safe in saying at this point that I'm never going to love it like I did Joss' other shows.
I really did see 'Margaret' in ED's performance, which surprised and pleased me. Although I have a problem that I don't believe somebody would be comfortable giving the body 'back' unless you laid in a whole bunch of subconscious triggers to make them do it....
I'm never going to love it like I did Joss' other shows.
Thank you Matt for articulating my feelings as well. I completely concur with this statement. This speaks for me.
I think the writers structured the Margaret stuff wrong. Ideally, they probably should have made that a whole ep and taken out the Helo stuff and the birthday stuff.
I think they needed to establish whether or not Margaret was murdered in the first damn place. If there had been more uncertainty about that for longer, that might have been interesting.
I think maybe too, this should have happened to a recurring character who we'd seen off and on across 3-4 eps. Since we didn't know the dead character at all, it was hard to identify with her. We saw her on screen for like 20 seconds, then boom.
I thought the Margaret character was just really badly written, though Eliza did a good job with what there was.
She's paranoid enough to make plans for her impending murder but then giggling with a friend once it happens, shocked, shocked that her rose-colored view of her life is so far from the mark (in which case, whence the paranoia), and when it turns out her son actually murdered her, "okay then, rewrite the will yay more money for everybody, okay I love you bye bye!" Seriously?
anybody else notice a familiar face in the preview for next week?
we did! I can't recall if it was me or D who said, "ah crap, now we have to watch next week." The only things I liked about this episode were Victor's performance and Sierra not getting raped on screen for a change. I might have liked it more if D hadn't been checking the clock at every commercial break to see how much longer he had to endure. At the end I said I didn't feel it was worthy of the "Grr! Argh."