Hauser: You really think you can solve the problem? Come into Wolfram & Hart and make everything right? Turn night into glorious day? You pathetic little fairy. Angel: I'm not little.

'Just Rewards (2)'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Theodosia - Apr 25, 2009 1:26:12 pm PDT #1367 of 5827
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I really did see 'Margaret' in ED's performance, which surprised and pleased me. Although I have a problem that I don't believe somebody would be comfortable giving the body 'back' unless you laid in a whole bunch of subconscious triggers to make them do it....


le nubian - Apr 25, 2009 2:33:02 pm PDT #1368 of 5827
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm never going to love it like I did Joss' other shows.

Thank you Matt for articulating my feelings as well. I completely concur with this statement. This speaks for me.

I think the writers structured the Margaret stuff wrong. Ideally, they probably should have made that a whole ep and taken out the Helo stuff and the birthday stuff.

I think they needed to establish whether or not Margaret was murdered in the first damn place. If there had been more uncertainty about that for longer, that might have been interesting.

I think maybe too, this should have happened to a recurring character who we'd seen off and on across 3-4 eps. Since we didn't know the dead character at all, it was hard to identify with her. We saw her on screen for like 20 seconds, then boom.


brenda m - Apr 25, 2009 2:46:31 pm PDT #1369 of 5827
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I thought the Margaret character was just really badly written, though Eliza did a good job with what there was.

She's paranoid enough to make plans for her impending murder but then giggling with a friend once it happens, shocked, shocked that her rose-colored view of her life is so far from the mark (in which case, whence the paranoia), and when it turns out her son actually murdered her, "okay then, rewrite the will yay more money for everybody, okay I love you bye bye!" Seriously?


Laga - Apr 25, 2009 2:52:19 pm PDT #1370 of 5827
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

anybody else notice a familiar face in the preview for next week?

we did! I can't recall if it was me or D who said, "ah crap, now we have to watch next week." The only things I liked about this episode were Victor's performance and Sierra not getting raped on screen for a change. I might have liked it more if D hadn't been checking the clock at every commercial break to see how much longer he had to endure. At the end I said I didn't feel it was worthy of the "Grr! Argh."


le nubian - Apr 25, 2009 2:59:33 pm PDT #1371 of 5827
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

and Sierra not getting raped on screen for a change

This made me chuckle ruefully while shaking my head.


Laga - Apr 25, 2009 3:08:12 pm PDT #1372 of 5827
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I'm sad I can't say nobody got raped this week.


erikaj - Apr 25, 2009 3:51:35 pm PDT #1373 of 5827
Always Anti-fascist!

[link] I thought this was an interesting theory.


DebetEsse - Apr 25, 2009 4:52:32 pm PDT #1374 of 5827
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I agree, erika. I'm wondering, apart from the "sound in space" thing, what other "clues" the writer is seeing? Is that a reference to Melly's speaking style?


erikaj - Apr 25, 2009 4:57:33 pm PDT #1375 of 5827
Always Anti-fascist!

I don't know...DK comment threads are long and daunting so I haven't read all of it.And have I mentioned today how much I hate liberals who think they are pious because they haven't followed a TV show in ten years? Because I do. Ass them in their free-range, dolphin-safe, community activist ears. Because if you don't read a book for ten years, you're ignorant. If you don't see a movie for ten years, it probably says something a bit sad about your social life. But television as a medium gets all the blame for every bit of crap that is now, or has ever been, on it. And I don't think it's right, especially given the evolution that came with cable and whatnot.(And mostly? I think it's incredibly self-righteous to counter "Have you seen "The Wire"? with a comment like "No, I actually have a REAL life where I talk to my wife and children, thanks.")


Fay - Apr 25, 2009 5:06:25 pm PDT #1376 of 5827
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

That is an interesting theory. It makes sense. But it does rather make me want to slap someone.