SATC is probably the poster child for passing Bechdel not having to mean anything deep for womankind.
Cougar Town also.
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SATC is probably the poster child for passing Bechdel not having to mean anything deep for womankind.
Cougar Town also.
oh oh oh Popular.
IOmovieN, I'm watching TVLand's showing of The Fugitive right now--I'd forgotten that a young(er) Jane Lynch is in it!
Calamity Jane and Joanie Stubbs on Deadwood, y'all.
Castle, nsm.
I think it passes, but just barely.
Glee passes with decent regularity, though not in every episode. To be fair, I don't think it passes the Reverse Bechdel test (replace the word "women" with "men") in every episode either. Lots of boy/girl and large-group conversations in that show. I guess it passes reverse Bechdel every time the Maharashi yells at Schue, but passes normal Bechdel every time Sue mocks Emma for mental illness, Quinn serves as some sort of weird magical angel to keep people from making the same mistakes she did, or Rachel has a showdown with another glee club girl about a solo or something.
I assume The L Word passes. The West Wing passes quite often: CJ had discussions with her secretary with fair regularity, not always about the President. Gossip Girl certainly passes. As does the Gilmore Girls, pretty obviously. And Veronica Mars.
Ella Enchanted passes, thanks to Ella's little friend.
Other favorite movies, let's see. Pan's Labyrinth passes. The Devil Wears Prada passes. The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants definitely passes.
the Reverse Bechdel test
Is this like "reverse racism"? As in, do we need a "Reverse Bechdel test" to point out ALL THE MOVIES that have 2 men talking about something other than a woman?
Because I think that's just called "movies."
Oh my, does it ever. The Alicia & Kalinda (or Alicia/Kalinda, which I have no trouble buying) relationship is one of my favourite thing about the show. And then there is Diane. Christine Baranski rocks so much. In a given episode, the show usually features several scenes featuring any combinations of these awesome women that have nothing to do with the men in their lives.
TGW snuck on me to become one of the most interesting shows on right now and the Bechdeltasticness of it all is a big part of that. And then there are the terrific dialog and complicated characters and arc-y plotting like whoa.
What Vonnie said.
Do you all think Leverage passes? I do, even though most of the conversations the women have involve the team, on some level.
White Collar, to me, wouldn't, because the women don't actually interact with one another. Ever.
Leverage passes, because Parker and Sophie have had conversations not about the mark or the victim. And some of those might have slipped in if the gender was right. But I think what ZenKitty cited in Cable was right.
White Collar will never pass almost in the way Supernatural will never pass. Everything is so about the leads. I can't imagine any of the women having a conversation ever that's not about either or both of them.
Trixie and Alma spent a lot of time having conversations about interpersonal things but not men for one of the seasons also, Corwood.