Remember that sex we were planning to have, ever again?

Zoe ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


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msbelle - May 24, 2010 6:43:36 pm PDT #8498 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

oh oh oh Popular.


Kathy A - May 24, 2010 7:26:53 pm PDT #8499 of 30000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

IOmovieN, I'm watching TVLand's showing of The Fugitive right now--I'd forgotten that a young(er) Jane Lynch is in it!


Hayden - May 24, 2010 7:29:56 pm PDT #8500 of 30000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Calamity Jane and Joanie Stubbs on Deadwood, y'all.


Burrell - May 24, 2010 8:05:25 pm PDT #8501 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Castle, nsm.

I think it passes, but just barely.


Gris - May 25, 2010 2:29:25 am PDT #8502 of 30000
Hey. New board.

Glee passes with decent regularity, though not in every episode. To be fair, I don't think it passes the Reverse Bechdel test (replace the word "women" with "men") in every episode either. Lots of boy/girl and large-group conversations in that show. I guess it passes reverse Bechdel every time the Maharashi yells at Schue, but passes normal Bechdel every time Sue mocks Emma for mental illness, Quinn serves as some sort of weird magical angel to keep people from making the same mistakes she did, or Rachel has a showdown with another glee club girl about a solo or something.

I assume The L Word passes. The West Wing passes quite often: CJ had discussions with her secretary with fair regularity, not always about the President. Gossip Girl certainly passes. As does the Gilmore Girls, pretty obviously. And Veronica Mars.

Ella Enchanted passes, thanks to Ella's little friend.

Other favorite movies, let's see. Pan's Labyrinth passes. The Devil Wears Prada passes. The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants definitely passes.


Steph L. - May 25, 2010 4:23:50 am PDT #8503 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

the Reverse Bechdel test

Is this like "reverse racism"? As in, do we need a "Reverse Bechdel test" to point out ALL THE MOVIES that have 2 men talking about something other than a woman?

Because I think that's just called "movies."


Lee - May 25, 2010 4:47:16 am PDT #8504 of 30000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Oh my, does it ever. The Alicia & Kalinda (or Alicia/Kalinda, which I have no trouble buying) relationship is one of my favourite thing about the show. And then there is Diane. Christine Baranski rocks so much. In a given episode, the show usually features several scenes featuring any combinations of these awesome women that have nothing to do with the men in their lives.

TGW snuck on me to become one of the most interesting shows on right now and the Bechdeltasticness of it all is a big part of that. And then there are the terrific dialog and complicated characters and arc-y plotting like whoa.

What Vonnie said.

Do you all think Leverage passes? I do, even though most of the conversations the women have involve the team, on some level.

White Collar, to me, wouldn't, because the women don't actually interact with one another. Ever.


§ ita § - May 25, 2010 5:01:26 am PDT #8505 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Leverage passes, because Parker and Sophie have had conversations not about the mark or the victim. And some of those might have slipped in if the gender was right. But I think what ZenKitty cited in Cable was right.

White Collar will never pass almost in the way Supernatural will never pass. Everything is so about the leads. I can't imagine any of the women having a conversation ever that's not about either or both of them.


erikaj - May 25, 2010 5:06:13 am PDT #8506 of 30000
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

Trixie and Alma spent a lot of time having conversations about interpersonal things but not men for one of the seasons also, Corwood.


Fred Pete - May 25, 2010 5:08:13 am PDT #8507 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

Because I think that's just called "movies."

The ultimate example being Lawrence of Arabia.