I think the very fact that we can have this conversation and say "Oh yeah...there was that ONE SCENE IN THAT TWO HOUR MOVIE that qualifies!" about movie after movie after movie demonstrates pretty effectively how rare it is.

Very true. I'm just noting that the tween market is well served in this regard. If Sex and the City movie does as well (or better) than the first I wonder if Prexies will wake up to this market.

SATC is probably the poster child for passing Bechdel not having to mean anything deep for womankind. But there is a fair chance I'm prejudging the movies too harshly based on the few episodes of the show I've seen.

Cleopatra 2525!

I'm not sure whose point that proves.

hated that show.

The Good Wife would pass. Castle, nsm. I think Criminal Minds would as would Bones.

Criminal Minds and Bones probably eventually, but the doers and the victims are so often men that I don't think it's a slam dunk.

The Good Wife would pass.

Oh my, does it ever. The Alicia & Kalinda (or Alicia/Kalinda, which I have no trouble buying) relationship is one of my favourite thing about the show. And then there is Diane. Christine Baranski rocks so much. In a given episode, the show usually features several scenes featuring any combinations of these awesome women that have nothing to do with the men in their lives.

TGW snuck on me to become one of the most interesting shows on right now and the Bechdeltasticness of it all is a big part of that. And then there are the terrific dialog and complicated characters and arc-y plotting like whoa.

Designing Women FTW.

Designing Women FTW.

Oh yes. And Golden Girls.

The Wire did sometimes, given how few women were in it.

The Wire had the advantage of lesbians.