As an explicit endorsement of that part of the logic of the casting, Hec.

I'm curious how you felt about the casting of Maori as Uruk Hai in LotR?

Not just the Maori Uruk Hai casting--pretty much every non-white cast member in the trilogy was cast as evil. It was not good.

Not just the Maori Uruk Hai casting--pretty much every non-white cast member in the trilogy was cast as evil. It was not good.

I'd concur, though I'd say that the racism is right there in Tolkien.

I don't know - I'm not insensitive to the issue at all. I'm still boggled that people can't see the blatant anti-semitic caricatures in the Ferengi and the Goblins in the Potterverse.

From her comments, I don't know that Taymor has thought through all the implications of her casting. I'm curious to see how she will deal with those issues in the movie. Whether she will use the casting of Djimon to dig into the issues of slavery and colonialism or whether it was a shallow dip into her own biases.

I'd say that the racism is right there in Tolkien

That *so* doesn't have to be brought forward in the movie. Jackson was willing to mess with enough shit. He could have had Maori hobbits or dwarves or white Uruk Hai quite simply. That's on him, and not on JRR.

That's on him, and not on JRR.

Especially considering his faithful remake of King Kong which followed.

In happier race-related movie news, Racebending reports that the casting side for Nico Minoru (Runaways, based on the comic) has been revised to specify "Asian-American." [link]

Good news, smonster!

OK- is Julie Taymor my college acting teacher in disguise, because my senior year we did a Tempest with a Prospera and the only black cast member being Caliban. Which was weird, but her casting pool was pretty small (mostly white females) (hence Prospera, and also Trincula, some noblewoman, and a queen). W

That *so* doesn't have to be brought forward in the movie. Jackson was willing to mess with enough shit. He could have had Maori hobbits or dwarves or white Uruk Hai quite simply. That's on him, and not on JRR.

It's true he didn't have to perpetuate the racism in the books. I don't know if he had all those options to him, though, especially since Tolkien does talk a lot about "the race of men" and specifically means some crypto-Aryan ideal.

Racial distinction is a part of Tolkien's world building and not just subtext. Gimli's the only dwarf we see. The Elves are specifically conceived as "fair folk" and would have to match his non-Maori stars anyway. Mighta coulda done the hobbits but he specifically cast very short actors to cheat the size difference illusion he was creating. So that limits your pool of Maori actors considerably. Plus you want to match your lead hobbits.

Casting them as Uruk Hai was the obvious way to give a lot of roles to the Maori, which seems like an admirable goal. Plus, I expect as Maori culture with a strong warrior ethos that was more appealing to them than playing hobbitses.

So, again I'm circling to the issue of representation vs. opportunity for POC actors, and I side with opportunity.

I expect as Maori culture with a strong warrior ethos

I'm just going to eyeroll at that. The implication that they're better suited or all gonna wanna be angry bad guys because they've got a haka is just fancy stereotyping.