Yeah, you can deal with shit a lot more gracefully than tweeting crap like this

Maybe I'm just used to a fairly high self-absorbed asshole content in my rock and roll, but that doesn't even ping me.

I mean I've got Chuck "I like to shit on women" Berry, Jerry Lee "I married my underaged cousin and probably murdered a couple people" Lewis and John "I used to be mean to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved" Lennon in my collection and that's just off the top of my head.

So "I'm not going to think about disability rights at the moment because I need to work on my next album" really doesn't rank high on my list of objectionable.

You mean when they call Jerry Lee "The Killer", they mean it literally?

So "I'm not going to think about disability rights at the moment because I need to work on my next album" really doesn't rank high on my list of objectionable.

And it might not, were those the words she had used, rather than saying what she did say while blocking anyone who had tweeted "Umm, you understand the problematic nature, right?" and flailing about saying people didn't understand her geeeeeeeeeeeeenius. It was a douche move.

And Chuck and Jerry and John weren't depending on their fans to feed them without a middle man while they were on tour.

It's also a different era, and she was directly addressing (or trying to ignore, as it turned out) the specific fans who were offended.

She handled the outcry poorly, and whined and sulked about it, which is never attractive.

You mean when they call Jerry Lee "The Killer", they mean it literally?

Yes, they do. He has family members on the State Police who handled the calls where he very likely killed people. I've seen people in the know estimate he might've killed two or three.

It's also a different era

Well, that's true. Shitting on women has definitely gone out of style. Though really I don't know if that's true, but I'm not willing to search on "scat porn" to find out.

She handled the outcry poorly, and whined and sulked about it, which is never attractive.

Sort of like Axl Rose when he was called out for his homophobic lyrics?

Social Media: the publicist's nightmare. Lord, I can't imagine what Guns N Ross tweets would've looked like back then. Not good, though.

"Umm, you understand the problematic nature, right?"

I still don't get what the expected response is here. (Aside from "don't be whiny" and don't claim artistic privilege.) Ple, you think SPN's portrayal of women and minorities has been problematic. Were the creators responsive to those criticisms?

I still don't get what the expected response is here.

Well, one would be politely stating that the art should speak for itself, if you don't want to comment or get drawn into debate.

The other would be actually trying to explain what her intent was and addressing the concerns instead of throwing a tantrum.

Today, if you're going to indulge in direct communication with your fanbase, it has to be a two-way street or fans are going to get pissed. Especially if you've had dialogues before, and run away crying like a toddler the first time crowd reaction isn't what you expected.

No artist is expected to comment on their work, at least for me. But if you do, then you have to suck it up and actually have a discussion, not a whining pity party about being misunderstood. If nothing else, that's just going to turn off fans.

If nothing else, that's just going to turn off fans.

Well, that definitely seems like it happened.

Today, if you're going to indulge in direct communication with your fanbase, it has to be a two-way street or fans are going to get pissed.

That's totally fair. If you're going to get the ego-strokes of constant approval then you have to take the lumps of facing your mistakes.

She has always presented herself as SO OPEN about talking about issues and Wanting People To Understand!, so when she whined and sulked about people saying "Look, this is problematic", it was a shitty move.

Look, I am a fan of all sorts of problematic artists. (My tragic hair metal past, hello.) BUT - and this is the sticking point - those other problematic artists have never tried to represent themselves as progressive and open-to-in-depth-discussion artists. Motley Crue? No one batted an eye at their misogynistic assholery, because people knew what they were getting.

The AP backlash happened in part because of her presenting herself as open to discussion about Her Art, and then responding in a petulant manner when the discussion didn't go the way she wanted.

Again, I'm willing to give her a little more leeway than others because of the info I have from people who know her in her private life. But I also stand by my gut instinct that if she doesn't do some work on how she interacts with people, she will be this generation's version of Courtney Love, and not in a good way.

those other problematic artists have never tried to represent themselves as progressive and open-to-in-depth-discussion artists. Motley Crue? No one batted an eye at their misogynistic assholery, because people knew what they were getting.

I get the distinction but I don't know if it's entirely fair that Crue get a bye as a function of their asshollery.

But basically it sounds like she did a big flounce-off.