My bet is that they're just going to re-run old episodes of 120 Minutes. Which would be JUST FINE.

They already do that on VH-1 Classic....

(Hec, remember the video compilation you made for me with tons of stuff from 120 Minutes? I ended up having it transferred to DVD, and love it to bits.)

...which is where I got all the clips for Jilli's tape.

I was shocked, shocked I tell you, to find out that the Goth subculture had failed to stay in touch with its video roots and that the "Bela Lugosi's Dead" video had gone unseen for so many years.

But I'm very glad Jilli now has Peter Murphy in his alabaster prime and Daniel Ash in his fishnet shirt to keep her company.

My favorite vid on that mix, though, might be the Dead Can Dance video for "The Carnival is Over" by Ondej Rudavsky which is so gorgeous and lush.

Mmmm. 120 Minutes. Man, that was awesome.

I know, right? My face wouldn't stop twitching after I watched it, and the first thing I wanted to do was make everyone experience the trauma.

I find it kind of endearing, lyrically, the same way I find the poorly-written Dark Angel fic on the Pit of Voles endearing.

Though, of course, I do tend to email those with headings of Train Rec to people.

Speaking of 120 Minutes, doesn't it seem like there was more space in the culture for strange dangerous women in the 90s? Tori Amos, PJ Harvey, Björk & Massive Attack Mashup

Thanks god for Amanda Palmer.

I have that mashup on my iPod. It's pretty great.

doesn't it seem like there was more space in the culture for strange dangerous women in the 90s?

You mean like Lady Gaga, Nicki Minaj, La Roux, Robyn, Florence and the Machine, Beth Ditto, Janelle Monae...?

Thanks god for Amanda Palmer.

Um.

bon bon, if I could "like" your previous post I totally would. Also, PJ and Tori are not dead and are still making music, AFAIK.

Um.

"Um," what?

You mean like Lady Gaga, Nicki Minaj, La Roux, Robyn, Florence and the Machine, Beth Ditto, Janelle Monae...?

Fair point, especially Gaga who is dominating the center of the pop world right now.

Also, PJ and Tori are not dead and are still making music, AFAIK.

Bjork, too, but my point wasn't that they were gone. Just that the culture has changed. bon's rebuts my point, though I don't think most of the women she lists have the stature (in the sense of a sustained career of challenging and successful work) that my earlier triad have (and had at that time). Anyway, it's a subjective call and I may simply be nostalgic for the 90s.

It's easy to look at careers of women who were active fifteen years ago and say they're more long-lived than musicians who started recently. But gaga and Minaj especially aren't going anywhere.

Amanda Palmer IMHO engaged in some massive disability fail that put me off her completely. Mostly her refusal to hear people's cogent arguments and recognize her fail.

It's easy to look at careers of women who were active fifteen years ago and say they're more long-lived than musicians who started recently.

I did say they had achieved more at that point in their careers than the women you listed. But I haven't really gotten out my protractor and charted out their hits/best work relative to their age.

But gaga and Minaj especially aren't going anywhere.

Right, and both of them are still fairly young and in their prime. But while Minaj has had a lot of hit singles and been putting out music since about 2007, her debut album just came out last year. So she's still at the beginning of her career.

I don't know - it's hard to say in a musical world that's singles dominated. But hit singles have always been more ephemeral than albums. A lot of different singers have had short periods of chart dominance and then faded.

At one point it would've been smart money to bet on Lauryn Hill and Karen O.