Zoe: Is there any way I'm gonna get out of this with honor and dignity? Wash: You're pretty much down to ritual suicide, lambie-toes.

'War Stories'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - May 17, 2010 6:30:08 am PDT #9171 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not able to provide the linkage right now, but roque clasique also wrote a similar coda, except without the ending realisation.

I don't particularly like the ending realisation. It's wonky for me. But I do like the characterisation up to that point.

I'm not so keen on the tone but go team love!

What about the tone don't you like? The implication that female==passive? The meta isn't quite Dean Winchester is a Feminist, and it a bit more congratulatory of Kripke's gender dealings than I think he deserves, but it is true that the boys are a bit girly for big old action heroes.

And I love it.


ehab - May 17, 2010 6:40:10 am PDT #9172 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

What about the tone don't you like? The implication that female==passive?

No. I felt like she was berating other fans in the interest of snarky humor. That's the tone I was concerned with.

a bit more congratulatory of Kripke's gender dealings than I think he deserves

This too.

but it is true that the boys are a bit girly for big old action heroes.

I actually really like that part. And I really like the idea of Dean as the mother figure in the family dynamic with Sam and Dean. I am a fan of meta that illustrates this well. Dean is a big old crying girl!

roque classique's take. As long as I'm unemployed, I might as well make myself useful tracking down ita's links.


§ ita § - May 17, 2010 6:50:00 am PDT #9173 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Dean is a big old crying girl!

He totally is. Bless. And Sam might be all paramilitary psycho without his brother, bang the chicks against the wall, but he blubbers like a three year old.

Which makes me wonder about the demographics of the show. Living in LJ-land, obviously things are female skewed. But I just noticed a guy on another site saying he'd cried during the finale, and although there are a ton of reasons for your average genre fan guys to like the show, I am curious about how they relate to the emotional moments that some of us hold so dear.


Amy - May 17, 2010 6:53:49 am PDT #9174 of 30002
Because books.

Garv has never cried during any show that I know of, but I think he *gets* the emotional moments the way they're intended. Ben, too.


§ ita § - May 17, 2010 6:57:22 am PDT #9175 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Mm. I do wonder if there's a contingent out there that thinks they would like SPN, except those damned boys cry all the time. So, really, they wouldn't have to worry about a two-year arc resolution in which wuv saves the day, but I can see a bravado that would prevent it.

I mean, Dean would never admit to liking the show. It is a chick flick moment, with guns and fist fights.

Which? Really? My favourite sorts of chick flicks.


ehab - May 17, 2010 7:04:04 am PDT #9176 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

I mean, Dean would never admit to liking the show. It is a chick flick moment, with guns and fist fights.

He'd totally watch it in secret and fan boy himself though.


SailAweigh - May 17, 2010 7:43:25 am PDT #9177 of 30002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

He'd totally watch it in secret and fan boy himself though.

Oh, totally. Anyone who knows all the characters, including their nicknames, of Grey's Anatomy would be prime material for watching. :P


§ ita § - May 17, 2010 7:44:35 am PDT #9178 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's very compelling.


ehab - May 17, 2010 8:02:49 am PDT #9179 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

It's very compelling.

Hee! I can totally picture his awkward little shrug when saying this.

roque classique's take on family life at Lisa's house is amazing. I like Ben's pov much better as a window into Dean's grief.

"Ben curled his knees up to his stomach and put his head further into his pillow. When he had imagined things like this, he had thought the house would feel safer with someone like Dean in it... but now that Dean was here, it felt scarier, instead."

It's hurty and lovely.


Beverly - May 17, 2010 8:23:55 am PDT #9180 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

A list of 5.22 codas, some already mentioned, plus the Dean is a woman meta.

As far as Dean-as-mom, I think the iconic moment of that for me has always been the scene where Sam comes off the bed and across the room the morning of the second Wednesday in Mystery Spot. It's a lost ten-year-old spotting his mom. I know the shippers had a field day with that scene, but I couldn't see it any other way than parent-child.