What about the tone don't you like? The implication that female==passive?
No. I felt like she was berating other fans in the interest of snarky humor. That's the tone I was concerned with.
a bit more congratulatory of Kripke's gender dealings than I think he deserves
This too.
but it is true that the boys are a bit girly for big old action heroes.
I actually really like that part. And I really like the idea of Dean as the mother figure in the family dynamic with Sam and Dean. I am a fan of meta that illustrates this well. Dean is a big old crying girl!
roque classique's take. As long as I'm unemployed, I might as well make myself useful tracking down ita's links.
Dean is a big old crying girl!
He totally is. Bless. And Sam might be all paramilitary psycho without his brother, bang the chicks against the wall, but he blubbers like a three year old.
Which makes me wonder about the demographics of the show. Living in LJ-land, obviously things are female skewed. But I just noticed a guy on another site saying he'd cried during the finale, and although there are a ton of reasons for your average genre fan guys to like the show, I am curious about how they relate to the emotional moments that some of us hold so dear.
Garv has never cried during any show that I know of, but I think he *gets* the emotional moments the way they're intended. Ben, too.
Mm. I do wonder if there's a contingent out there that thinks they would like SPN, except those damned boys cry all the time. So, really, they wouldn't have to worry about a two-year arc resolution in which wuv saves the day, but I can see a bravado that would prevent it.
I mean, Dean would never admit to liking the show. It is a chick flick moment, with guns and fist fights.
Which? Really? My favourite sorts of chick flicks.
I mean, Dean would never admit to liking the show. It is a chick flick moment, with guns and fist fights.
He'd totally watch it in secret and fan boy himself though.
He'd totally watch it in secret and fan boy himself though.
Oh, totally. Anyone who knows all the characters, including their nicknames, of Grey's Anatomy would be prime material for watching. :P
It's very compelling.
Hee! I can totally picture his awkward little shrug when saying this.
roque classique's take on family life at Lisa's house is amazing. I like Ben's pov much better as a window into Dean's grief.
"Ben curled his knees up to his stomach and put his head further into his pillow. When he had imagined things like this, he had thought the house would feel safer with someone like Dean in it... but now that Dean was here, it felt scarier, instead."
It's hurty and lovely.
A list of 5.22 codas, some already mentioned, plus the Dean is a woman meta.
As far as Dean-as-mom, I think the iconic moment of that for me has always been the scene where Sam comes off the bed and across the room the morning of the second Wednesday in Mystery Spot. It's a lost ten-year-old spotting his mom. I know the shippers had a field day with that scene, but I couldn't see it any other way than parent-child.
It's hurty and lovely.
Man, Show better go there, even if a little. So maybe Dean and Lisa work things out (don't want them to) and find some peace. But it better not be apple pie day #2 (assuming the final shot is day #1, and that was definitely not happy).
There have been so many codas that I've been reasonably sparing about clicking on them. But I haven't seen that many that deal with after Dean discovers Sam, or with what might happen with future Castiel, or an eventual reunion with Bobby. I will have to look at that list of codas later.
Perhaps pathetically, I am clinging to the fact that Chuck never said it would be a long time before Dean and Cas saw each other again, but I fully realise that means nothing and I'm just making shit up.
It's a lost ten-year-old spotting his mom
It's definitely more complicated than a lost brother, and I never come down on the shipping side. I am still somewhat disappointed that we've never heard from Sam that Dean was his nurturer, but we've heard it from Dean to his (conscious) face, so that helps me somewhat. That moment definitely had "You're back! I'm safe!" overtones to it.
