A LOT of people die. For nothing. Especially in this show.

In the real world too. "No good deed goes unpunished" is a cliche for a reason. People who help make the world a better place often end up miserable, and sometimes die making the world a better place, or die trying and don't end up making the world a better place. To take an example that I don't think will be too contentious, the Uncle I'm named after was a fighter pilot in WWII, and died of a head wound, but he also killed a lot Nazis first. From the stories I've heard, I'm pretty sure he counted that as a win.

[link] So I guess the wedding is tomorrow. Which makes me really really happy. I hope for some photos of the dress, because wedding dresses and smiling boys make me happy.

I keep thinking about last night. That moment of acceptance that Sam had where he closed his eyes and let himself fall toward the hole. His face was so peaceful. I thought that was so powerful and such a conscious choice to save the rest of the world. I was afraid it was going to be ruined by Michael stopping him, but then I saw of course, that gave Sam the opportunity to pull Michael in as well. I guess Michael had to go in otherwise, the whole thing would have started again in order to have the showdown. So maybe that was another way that Sam changed destiny. With all of that history stacked up against him not only did he take out the bad guy and not unleash him on earth, but he took out the "good" guy so there wouldn't be a repeat of the battle in the cemetary. I think Sam gave destiny the finger.

Aw, wedding! And what a beautiful couple they make. I can only imagine the very, very pretty children they might have.

I was reading a twitter feed for #asylum4 and it suddenly struck me odd that Mark Pelligrino was on Lost and it's got a much larger viewing audience and yet he's in the UK for Supernatural. This led me to wonder if there are Lost conventions? And if not why not? It strikes me as unusual that Supernatural with such a small viewer-ship comparatively generates more convention interest.

Lost is a genre show too and seems like it would attract the same convention-going following. Maybe as a non-Lost fan I'm just unaware of the conventions. I'm sure there all kind of factors that contribute to why a show generates a convention following versus ones that don't.

There was at least one Lost convention its first year--Allyson and her business partner put it together and ita and people from her Krav classes did security, if I remember right--and I admit I may not be. I think a big-name con promoter took it over after that, but I don't know if that show has generated interest enough to merit the cost of mounting cons.

but I don't know if that show has generated interest enough to merit the cost of mounting cons.

This is where I wonder what's different from SPN? Or Farscape? Or Joss Whedon's stuff?

I don't watch the show, Lost that is, and haven't since the first season so I have no perspective on what is different. Is it willingness on the actor's parts perhaps? As I'm sure that Smallville could sustain a convention if the actor's were willing.

Or is it something about the show that doesn't sustain the same level of fan interest?

Lost, while stealth scifi and generating a lot of speculation and conspiracy theory plotting and whatnot, maybe is too much about trying to untangle all the plots and clues, and less about the emotion and imagination. Not that it lacks those two, not in the least. But I myself get exhausted trying to track all that is, was, will be, or could be, let alone account for the sometimes seemingly constant shoeing of characters into the plot.

There have been Smallville cons, and people connected with the show turn up at ComicCon and other venues. I think Julie's right, that the focus of Lost is so scattered it's difficult for fans to focus on one plotline or one character's throughline, or a 'ship. Which are the things that make a show con-able, IMO.

Something that's been haunting me since Thursday, a parallel of sorts. A clip from Backdraft, from about the 4:00 minute mark.

"Look at him. That's my brother, goddammit."

Yes, I am a giant cheeseball.

Also? Somewhere in Dallas, Mazeltov, Jensen and Danneel.

It wasn't so much a convention as a fan party, with official endorsement and attendees. So actors and writers showed up and there was a great big stuffed polar bear. I got to chaperon Harold Perrineau and Daniel Dae Kim.

I cannot imagine participating in something like that for Supernatural. Not just because I'm a fan of it and was never more than a casual watcher of Lost (though, let me tell you, I pulled rank as head of security to walk both those guys--DREAMY (and then randomly HP signed up for krav, and remembered me)). I don't even know about Lost fandom. I've never bumped into the edges of it, like I've bumped into the edges of others--just Lost fans, if the distinction is clear.

When I check AO3, there are 243 Lost stories, as opposed to 3153 Supernatural ones. Yet, as you say, much higher viewership. But, I guess, it's the "normals".

It did surprise me to see that Aldis does SPN conventions, enough that he was apologising for not attending Asylum. I mean, it was two episodes! Cool as shit, though.

I'm listening to a song about divorce and now it's a Sam & Dean coda song. Stop it, brain!

"Leaving you, believe me, is the first good deed I've done..."