but I don't know if that show has generated interest enough to merit the cost of mounting cons.

This is where I wonder what's different from SPN? Or Farscape? Or Joss Whedon's stuff?

I don't watch the show, Lost that is, and haven't since the first season so I have no perspective on what is different. Is it willingness on the actor's parts perhaps? As I'm sure that Smallville could sustain a convention if the actor's were willing.

Or is it something about the show that doesn't sustain the same level of fan interest?

Lost, while stealth scifi and generating a lot of speculation and conspiracy theory plotting and whatnot, maybe is too much about trying to untangle all the plots and clues, and less about the emotion and imagination. Not that it lacks those two, not in the least. But I myself get exhausted trying to track all that is, was, will be, or could be, let alone account for the sometimes seemingly constant shoeing of characters into the plot.

There have been Smallville cons, and people connected with the show turn up at ComicCon and other venues. I think Julie's right, that the focus of Lost is so scattered it's difficult for fans to focus on one plotline or one character's throughline, or a 'ship. Which are the things that make a show con-able, IMO.

Something that's been haunting me since Thursday, a parallel of sorts. A clip from Backdraft, from about the 4:00 minute mark.

"Look at him. That's my brother, goddammit."

Yes, I am a giant cheeseball.

Also? Somewhere in Dallas, Mazeltov, Jensen and Danneel.

It wasn't so much a convention as a fan party, with official endorsement and attendees. So actors and writers showed up and there was a great big stuffed polar bear. I got to chaperon Harold Perrineau and Daniel Dae Kim.

I cannot imagine participating in something like that for Supernatural. Not just because I'm a fan of it and was never more than a casual watcher of Lost (though, let me tell you, I pulled rank as head of security to walk both those guys--DREAMY (and then randomly HP signed up for krav, and remembered me)). I don't even know about Lost fandom. I've never bumped into the edges of it, like I've bumped into the edges of others--just Lost fans, if the distinction is clear.

When I check AO3, there are 243 Lost stories, as opposed to 3153 Supernatural ones. Yet, as you say, much higher viewership. But, I guess, it's the "normals".

It did surprise me to see that Aldis does SPN conventions, enough that he was apologising for not attending Asylum. I mean, it was two episodes! Cool as shit, though.

I'm listening to a song about divorce and now it's a Sam & Dean coda song. Stop it, brain!

"Leaving you, believe me, is the first good deed I've done..."

But, I guess, it's the "normals".

I think that's it -- for all its genre characteristics, it's got a mainstream audience.

My guide is always whether my parents have heard of it. They not only know about Lost, they watched for a few seasons. Supernatural they never would have heard of but for me (or Angel, or Fringe, or ...)

"Look at him. That's my brother, goddammit."

LOVE that line in Backdraft. Funny, when I watched that movie recently, I was hoping to see something along those lines for Sam and Dean.

And on that note, I'm convinced Sam isn't Lucifer simply because of all the deal-making that went on between Bobby, Boys and Crowley, Dean and Death, Sam and Lucifer (if Sam could fight Lucifer from within). Of course, this doesn't mean that Michael didn't dump Adam's meatsuit for Sam's in the pit.

I honestly think if there were another episode scheduled for next week, rather than the hellatus of unknown length, it might not seem so disquieting.

Yes, a lot of things weren't explored fully, but I just wonder how much time in 22 episodes they could have really crammed such detail with all these moving parts and characters.

I think the lack of character development for Michael may have been deliberate. We do know he was arrogant, dismissive, dogmatic, and conniving. He didn't care about humans anymore than Lucifer did. His only mission was to be a good son - one dimensional. And I believe this is why Dean rejected Michael, because when it came to their respective brothers, Dean knows Sam better than Michael knows Lucifer, and Dean and Sam understand that real love has to include forgiveness. Michael and Lucifer don't have a clue about that.

Part of me wonders, if we had a full season in S3, what S5 would have been like. Obviously, Kripke had to change gears and juggle other outcomes.

I can't say I'm surprised by the finale. I did expect sadness and sacrifice, and with renewal for a 6th season, a cliffhanger. I will be disappointed, however, if I'm wrong about Lucifer wearing Sam at the end. Sam did achieve his goal of redemption. I really don't want to go into S6 with Evil!Sam. (Although I'm sure JP would love to sink his teeth into that.)

Also? Somewhere in Dallas, Mazeltov, Jensen and Danneel.

Absolutely! Mazel tov and blessings for a long and happy life together, Jensen and Danneel!

But, I guess, it's the "normals".

Thanks for that. It didn't really clear up anything for me but it did make me laugh because it's true.

Aldis is almost too good to be true. Have you seen his art? It's really very good. And he makes violins and he want's to write a screenplay over the Summer.

Leverage seems very con-able. Justified not as much. White collar has actors that would do it but I don't know if they have the following that is needed.

Ahem. Speaking of weddings. Click at your own risk.