the first time I saw it I was chilled to the bone.

It still makes me clench every time I see it in a vid. Suicidal Dean gets right to me, even if it's against his control. Especially if it's against his control.

Abandoning Sammy!

Yes! I was terrified! And JA sells that face SO well, completely blank, not at all there, just waiting for the order.

Good little soldier. I'd totally thought that plan was going to work. Very disappointing and chilling.

Ficwise I have to say I'm over Jess. She's always perfect. Too perfect. If she hadn't died she'd have understood Sam deeply and probably become a hunter or he'd have quit hunting to marry her.

At least when he goes back for Sarah they don't spackle her so smoothly over.

And the stories where they "fix" Madison are eyerolly.

Yeah, I've been consuming a fair amount of het recently.

Some of my favorites are really hurty Sam/Jo by vinylroad, but there are some Wincest undertones in a lot of them, and she's apparently locked them anyway.

Sarah is such a good candidate for Sam to bump into down the road, or look up on purpose. She was game, she was bright, she was sensible -- I liked her very much.

I only really like Jess fic if it's preseries stuff where Sam is sort of reveling in normal life, in this girl he loves, and she's very curious about the things he doesn't tell her. Which is sort of a tiny little niche.

I do enjoy any of the Winchester/Harvelle fic, even though John/Jo is wrong. But, hey. Wronger things have happened for fun.

Sarah is such a good candidate for Sam to bump into down the road, or look up on purpose. She was game, she was bright, she was sensible -- I liked her very much.

Yeah, she was great. And, alive.

I'd love to read a Sex and Violence episode coda where the doctor gets hit by a bus on her way out of the office. Just because.

I have now decided to stick to only pre-series Jess stuff, no AU. And even then, rationed. But Jess/Dean held so much potential for handwringing and recrimination. I was so disappointed it ended in a boy-on-boy BJ (well, and I'm assuming threesome hijinx in the next chapter).

I have decided I want to check out outsider POV fic. Luckily just found an LJ community for it. It's part of the crossover appeal, looking at people look at these guys who are seasoned killers and broken little boys. It's definitely part of the appeal of the Jess niche you cite. Outsider POV Stanford fascinates me. I like to see authors play with how well Sam did or did not fit in with the normals.

One comment fic prompt that really caught my attention and I'd love to have seen it filled multiple times was one where Sam gets badly cut and has to stitch himself up and his college buds or Jess are all "Whut? How are you so awesome?"

ita can you share the outsider POV LJ community? I also love that look at the boys. There have been several great outsider pov's that I've read as crossovers with criminal minds and another procedural crime show I don't watch and can't remember the name of just now.

ehab, I can't get to it from work, so if no one else has chimed in with it by this evening, I'll post it then. Sorry about the delay.

My fic wishlist has changed. Things I want:

• wee!Chesters from John's POV, where we see him juggling fatherhood and hunting

• John POV fic about Adam

• good Jess POV fic about meeting Sam and her curiosity about the difference between him and most guys, his reticence about his family (and, you know, porn)

• Lisa POV fic about that weekend, what convinced her to spend a whole weekend with Dean, what she might have wondered or believed about what kind of guy he was, what he did for a living

• Dean's first few hours in hell (I like Teh Pain, too, sometimes)

• The Flagstaff Incident, from either boy's POV

• possibly some Castiel POV gen about the boys, and his own sacrifices

That ... got longer than I thought it would.

Most of the Dean/OFC fic where you get the OFC's POV has them reading him as a smooth operator or some such. I'd like to see a woman seduced by a stone cold killer, because, really, that's what would work on me. Yes, he plays a charming doofus, but I'd be interested in the woman that saw through the cracks where he wasn't actually acting and was just moving like a hunter and fell for that even if she couldn't know exactly what that was. Maybe she thought she was hooking up with an undercover cop, or a criminal.

Any Sam/OC fic where he gets seen as a lethal force is good by me. Hell, it doesn't have to be pron. I just love that view of the boys.

I don't think I'm ready to read about hell or Flagstaff. Too sad.

Hmm. I'm pretty indiscriminate with my reading right now, but my proper wishlist would be:

• Weechester fic where Dean has left high school and gets his GED and Sam is rebelling but

• Weechester fic when they're still wee enough that Dean is ridiculously out of place in his parenting efforts. John POV welcome especially as he marvels at it, with regret
• Dean/Castiel with all the rough edges
• Hustler!Dean without abuse
• Stanford Sam
• Codas!
• Outsider POV

Umm, I could go on forever, it seems.

Weechester fic when they're still wee enough that Dean is ridiculously out of place in his parenting efforts. John POV welcome especially as he marvels at it, with regret

Aw, yes. Very much so.

Do you mean hustler!Dean without abuse as in hustling doesn't come from abuse (by which I assume you mean John)?