Take jobs as they come -- and we'll never be under the heel of nobody ever again. No matter how long the arm of the Alliance might get, we'll just get ourselves a little further.

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Apr 21, 2010 2:37:46 pm PDT #7775 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can see John saying something like, "I have to find the thing that killed Mommy,"

John! Shut up!

I'm not a hater, I swear. I just have broken!Dean issues big time right now.


Amy - Apr 21, 2010 2:42:24 pm PDT #7776 of 30002
Because books.

I hate the idea of it, even if I can't bring myself to hate John, but I also think as a parent you only have a few options, once you've made the decision to hunt, and when your child knows something was freaky with Mommy's death.

I mean, even at four, you know Mommy doesn't belong up there, so. It would probably depend on how much your kid asks, too -- if Dean wanted to know what happened, there's lying and then there's lying. And he clearly never believed in Santa, so I'm thinking John didn't hold too much back.

It's one of those things I can see saying in the moment, and then quickly regretting it -- "I'm hunting what killed Mommy" as a way to make your absence more palatable, and then realizing, good god, what does the poor kid think about that?

At that point, though, it's too late.


SuziQ - Apr 21, 2010 2:51:12 pm PDT #7777 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I saw CSPwDT this morning and I was mildly surprised with John checking his guns and packing them up with Sam just sitting there. I guess he was supposed to be hooked on Thundercats on the TV, but shoot, if my parent had a gun out, it would draw my attention.

Just seemed like John was pretty lax about hiding hunting from Sam at that point in time.


Amy - Apr 21, 2010 2:53:57 pm PDT #7778 of 30002
Because books.

But remember, Sam wouldn't know he was hunting monsters. Cops and people who hunt game don't hide their weapons from their kids, so I think it was probably just part of the cover story.


§ ita § - Apr 21, 2010 2:54:10 pm PDT #7779 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Just seemed like John was pretty lax about hiding hunting from Sam at that point in time.

Maybe he thought John was a gun salesman?


Morgana - Apr 21, 2010 3:05:10 pm PDT #7780 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I interrupt the Sam discussion to bring you a video interview with JDM for his new movie. At the 7:12 mark he discusses SPN. To sum it up, he says that he loves JA & JP and would do anything for them, but doesn't sound so found of Kripke. Says he keeps hearing that he's too busy to appear on the show again, but that he's never been contacted. However given the way he hears the character of John's been trashed he doesn't think he could go back and play him again anyway.


SuziQ - Apr 21, 2010 3:05:13 pm PDT #7781 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Now I need to watch A Very Supernatural Christmas to refresh Sam questioning Dean about the journal and what John was doing.


Beverly - Apr 21, 2010 3:37:17 pm PDT #7782 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things is S2. Do you mean Something Wicked? With the shtriga?

Honestly, by the end of S3, there wasn't anything John could teach his sons that was worth bringing him back from the grave for. I've mentioned before that part of the hero's journey is leaving the mentor figure behind, and they've done that. I think they tried it too quickly in IMToD, killing John off, and had to send in Bobby as the sub. But they're leaving his mentorship ep by ep, now, and it's a probability they'll leave him behind for good by the end of S5.

I'd love to see Dean get some resolution with his dad, F2F. I love that Sam was able to do that in TSRtS with "young" John. But there really isn't any point in John's return by now, for me. Though I do love JDM and would be happy to see him again, it just doesn't make narrative sense, by his point.


Amy - Apr 21, 2010 3:39:30 pm PDT #7783 of 30002
Because books.

Yeah, the one with the shtriga.


§ ita § - Apr 21, 2010 3:51:13 pm PDT #7784 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Though I do love JDM and would be happy to see him again, it just doesn't make narrative sense, by his point.

Flashbacks! Weechesters! Those can always make sense.

But I can see if Kripke and Gamble have other things to do.