Oh, they've never been good at weaving in A&B plots but I didn't think it was all that bad this time. I mean for me the MotW is the time between when they're doing their decision making about what to do about the big picture.

At least it seemed like that to me.

And was that John Rubenstein's son playing the newly reyounged Charlie?

How could I have forgotten Brad?

I met my first boyfriend in the RHPS local cast. He was playing Brad, I was Columbia. Good times, good times.

Oh, they've never been good at weaving in A&B plots but I didn't think it was all that bad this time.

I think for me, it's been building up for a while, not just this episode in particular.

I mean for me the MotW is the time between when they're doing their decision making about what to do about the big picture.

This. I just wish it was a bit more balanced.

I think the thing of it really is, I'm really mentally invested in the apocalypse-related storyline, and that's what I want to see on the screen. I don't know that I'm going to personally feel satisfied until we get more of that storyline.

It's possible I'm also just cranky.

And was that John Rubenstein's son playing the newly reyounged Charlie?

Oh, I have no idea who that is, but probably. I saw two Rubensteins in the credits.

I completely missed the brother-killing-brother anvil.

Did anyone see what tarot card Charlie had in his hand at the end? It was obscured by the CW logo.

It was The Magician.

Interview with Misha Collins.

I guess I just really enjoyed the three magicians - and it was interesting to see this little closed in world and then later watch the Bones episode set in the Circus and watch that subculture too. (They seem. . . .related.. . you know?)

Oddly, I found the brother doing something wrong to make things good for his brother extremely obvious but my spn crazed buddy didn't get it.

Of course, I really want to know that the heck it is that Ruby has Sam doing to increase his strength.

Special push ups.

I don't think the average viewer would really see the anvils except in retrospect. I have a work friend or two who are average viewers of the shows I watch, and they are anvil missers. The don't watch it near as close as a lot of us.

I actually love getting MotW episodes as a break from doom doom doom angel doom doom gloom. Makes the arc eps feel heavier.

I wasn't able to watch the Show because there was something else I had to focus on, but I had it on in the background. (So I know I missed a lot of stuff that I'll be able to catch once I watch the tape.) But just listening to it... was anyone else pinged by how often the words "douche" and "douchebag" were used? (Yes, I know it's in the title.) It was so obviously overused that I began to think that they just got approval from the network censors to use a slghtly naughty word, and were tossing it in there as often as possible.

Okay, I wanted to add my comment, but not twice.

The brotherly anvils thing did bug, but I really enjoyed the show up until that last scene with BB in the bar. (Seriously dudes, point out to him that you're thanking him for saving your lives, and preventing other innocent people from dying needlessly. That's not a minor thing.)

Given the demon-killing spell Ruby proposed in Jus in Bello, I suspect whatever she's trying to get Sam to do involves human sacrifice. And I'd still love it if this all turns out to be a plot by Lilith to corrupt him (and maybe make him the perfectly-prepared host body for a certain Big Bad we've been building up to all year...)