Travers: Perhaps you'll favor us with a demonstration while we're here. Buffy: You mean, like, right now? 'Cause, already had my recommended daily dose of fights tonight.

'Potential'


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Amy - Jan 31, 2010 2:22:55 pm PST #4955 of 30002
Because books.

Remember the video the boys made about their fan, and how fans could follow their bodyguard for real updates or whatever?

He posted this picture tonight, of Jensen singing at the 100th episode party in "The Impalas," which is him and a bunch of guys from the crew, including Robert Singer.


Ailleann - Jan 31, 2010 3:46:53 pm PST #4956 of 30002
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OH JENSEN.


JenP - Jan 31, 2010 3:50:21 pm PST #4957 of 30002

Adorable.

I got the same feeling from Sam as ita, that the constraints of picket-fence family were irritatingly confining, and unimportant. Sam's seen a larger picture, and hearth and family don't factor into that picture, not for him.

Dean still has some wistfulness about it, a bit of longing, even though he's resigned himself to dying for it as an outsider.

This is my take, too. I like that they're each in such different places now with respect to living normal (well, as opposed to their kind of) lives.


JenP - Jan 31, 2010 4:06:10 pm PST #4958 of 30002

And I don't usually notice these things, but shouldn't it have been the kid's voice, not Sam's, we were hearing on the voice mails Dean was playing in the motel room? Minor nitpick, all things considered, and I'm sure someone can explain it away. I liked the ep.


Polter-Cow - Jan 31, 2010 4:11:57 pm PST #4959 of 30002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Jen, that bugged me too, and I don't think you can explain it away. Even though we heard Sam's voice because it was Sam speaking, the voicemail should be unaffected by narrative perspective.


§ ita § - Jan 31, 2010 4:19:30 pm PST #4960 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I chalk it up to shortcut. I think it's okay we heard it in Sam's voice the first time, but when Dean played them back it was lazy to not have them in Gary's voice. I think they went the route of just sticking to us having seen JP as Gary, so we heard JP as Gary too. Doesn't fit the story.


JenP - Jan 31, 2010 4:51:17 pm PST #4961 of 30002

OK, good. It seemed such a simple thing to do, and yet.


Typo Boy - Jan 31, 2010 7:19:52 pm PST #4962 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Well part of the reason Sam hated the family was that the father was controlling maybe to the point of being abusive. The whole "plan" thing. I mean borderline, maybe not abusive, but if not getting there. I really got an "evil Dad from dead poets society" vibe. Heck, I even think the speech pattern was similar.


§ ita § - Jan 31, 2010 7:26:16 pm PST #4963 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think the father was anywhere near abusive. Controlling, sure, but not near a borderline. I could accept that the guy triggered Sam's own father issues, but he was a pussycat compared to John. Being righteously pissed your scholarship-seeking 17 year old was out drinking on a weeknight no less doesn't seem extreme to me.


Typo Boy - Jan 31, 2010 7:47:36 pm PST #4964 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

It wasn't being pissed. No not John. But I bet it echoed. And part if it may have just been the speech patterns. Maybe it was the just the pattern of a continued unrelenting cloud of anger. In my family if I did something wrong there would be shouting, and some clear definite punishment finished if possible, or assigned. And then it was over, with any continuing punishment carried out without malice, in a "you did wrong, and the consequences will take a while to work through" fashion. The unrelenting cloud of disapproval looks to me like something very hard to live with.