OH JENSEN.

Adorable.

I got the same feeling from Sam as ita, that the constraints of picket-fence family were irritatingly confining, and unimportant. Sam's seen a larger picture, and hearth and family don't factor into that picture, not for him.

Dean still has some wistfulness about it, a bit of longing, even though he's resigned himself to dying for it as an outsider.

This is my take, too. I like that they're each in such different places now with respect to living normal (well, as opposed to their kind of) lives.

And I don't usually notice these things, but shouldn't it have been the kid's voice, not Sam's, we were hearing on the voice mails Dean was playing in the motel room? Minor nitpick, all things considered, and I'm sure someone can explain it away. I liked the ep.

Jen, that bugged me too, and I don't think you can explain it away. Even though we heard Sam's voice because it was Sam speaking, the voicemail should be unaffected by narrative perspective.

I chalk it up to shortcut. I think it's okay we heard it in Sam's voice the first time, but when Dean played them back it was lazy to not have them in Gary's voice. I think they went the route of just sticking to us having seen JP as Gary, so we heard JP as Gary too. Doesn't fit the story.

OK, good. It seemed such a simple thing to do, and yet.

Well part of the reason Sam hated the family was that the father was controlling maybe to the point of being abusive. The whole "plan" thing. I mean borderline, maybe not abusive, but if not getting there. I really got an "evil Dad from dead poets society" vibe. Heck, I even think the speech pattern was similar.

I don't think the father was anywhere near abusive. Controlling, sure, but not near a borderline. I could accept that the guy triggered Sam's own father issues, but he was a pussycat compared to John. Being righteously pissed your scholarship-seeking 17 year old was out drinking on a weeknight no less doesn't seem extreme to me.

It wasn't being pissed. No not John. But I bet it echoed. And part if it may have just been the speech patterns. Maybe it was the just the pattern of a continued unrelenting cloud of anger. In my family if I did something wrong there would be shouting, and some clear definite punishment finished if possible, or assigned. And then it was over, with any continuing punishment carried out without malice, in a "you did wrong, and the consequences will take a while to work through" fashion. The unrelenting cloud of disapproval looks to me like something very hard to live with.

I didn't see him there long enough to be labouring under an unrelenting cloud. We saw two, maybe three conversations with his parents, one mad because he came home "drunk" and disoriented, one at breakfast where he was still acting weird and not taking them seriously or treating them respectfully.

Let's just say my father and mother wouldn't have let up on me in that 12 hour span, and they totally don't count as an unrelenting cloud of disapproval or borderline abuse.