Why? The fact that consent is required at all puts it outsdide of the typical demon possession junk. And I don't get Lucifer as the over-sharing type.

That's my thought. I mean, some demons thought the Colt would work, and the demon information line seems like a big old game of telephone. Plus, I doubt most of them have any sort of direct line to Lucifer, and are more akin to Trip in their dealings with the higher ups, expecting big rewards and NOT knowing what they're messing with.

Why did I think that kid's name was Trevor?

With all the battling, especially now, you don't think demons would brush up on their angel info, wrt consent? It seems to me that if they know, at the least, that Sam has to give it, they would know that a not!Sam wouldn't work (probably).

I'm going to apply handwavium, though, and hope Dean and Sam are simply more careful with Sam and his body from here on out.

you don't think demons would brush up on their angel info, wrt consent?

I can possibly fanwank this away as just not being available information. To keep my interest in the rage thing, I will just have to.

Mostly I'm going to focus on Dean's sad perplexation at being complimented by Sam, and at the switcheroo where Sam's rejecting family-oriented suburbia and Dean's longing for it.

Today's TNT episode is Dead Man's Blood. I left home right after Sam pulled the car over and blew up at John. Good times, good times. And the colt!

you don't think demons would brush up on their angel info, wrt consent?

Here's how I see that. Assuming they figured out that angel's need consent, I don't think most demons would see any equivalence between that and Lucifer. After all, why would he be unable to do something any random demon can accomplish? So there's that. But also, like I said before, Lucifer seems the type to play things very close to the chest. They know he wants Sam Winchester, and they know he intends to use him as a vessel. I very much doubt any of them know much about why his specific interest in Sam, or what it is about him personally that make him the only option.

The demon last night was pretty focused on Sam's "meatsuit." We know that's not all there is to it. I'm betting the demon community at large has as little idea of Lucifer's plans and motivations ultimate end-game than any of us.

and at the switcheroo where Sam's rejecting family-oriented suburbia and Dean's longing for it.

Did you buy that? I wasn't sure if I was supposed to - if Sam was trying (badly) to mimic Dean's "shove it all down" instructions or not.

With all the battling, especially now, you don't think demons would brush up on their angel info, wrt consent?

Who would they consult? Angels generally seem to take a kill on sight approach to confrontations with demons without much chitchat, and Lucifer doesn't strike me as the sort to explain all the nuances of his restrictions to his underlings. Especially since he now knows at least some of them are working against him.

The confrontation with John, with Dean playing mediator, is so powerful. DEAN. And later John and Sam finally realizing that they're more alike than either of them imagined.

I wasn't sure if I was supposed to - if Sam was trying (badly) to mimic Dean's "shove it all down" instructions or not.

I think this is true. I think given everything Sam's been through, he's not even willing to think about what it would mean to *want* those kinds of roots and commitments the way he once did. Sadly, I think this is partly because he sees himself as tainted, and hardly a safe bet for anyone who doesn't know what they do about things that go bump in the night.

Did you buy that?

I did, partially because he had so little patience or wistfulness for the family setup when he got thrust into it. I understand that getting back to Dean is job #1, but there wasn't even a sideways glance at family.

Why did I think that kid's name was Trevor?

Because it was?

Everyone keeps calling him Trip!

I heard Trevor! And I found a casting call that also referred to him as Trevor!