I felt very uncomfortable during the bordello stuff. I don't think even Dean would consider getting an angel laid on his last night alive as a good thing. Knowing Castiel, and seeing his reactions to other things and situations, I doubt that even Dean would have thought for a second that was something Castiel would want for himself.

It did hurt, watching Dean try to shoehorn Castiel into the Sam-shaped hole in his life. And I think his comment about being free of his family feeling good may have been almost 100% sincere. His further comment about feeling great being alone at last? Sheer bravado.

The Rafael (Raphael?) actor was wonderful--amazing voice. It's difficult to convey power and powerful emotion from a static position, but he was just fabulous.

Sam broke me. JP is blazing through Sam's storyline and pulling unbelievable depth and subtlety out of his actor's bag of technique. The Lucifer actor (Mark Pelligrino?) is against type, but man, is he bringing this version of the Lightbringer to the screen. So subtle, so facile, so sympathetic. And it's working on Sam, poor man, who try hard as he might, can't succeed, can't resist, can't pull away from inevitability no matter how much he wants to, how hard he tries. Oh, Sam.

For Dean to say, "I'm happy"... Honestly, I don't think he knows what that means. Being unburdened isn't the same thing as being happy.

How long was it before the fanfic hit the interwebs concerning what Dean did to make sure Castiel wouldn't die a virgin post-getting chased out of the bordello?

The author is probably having it beta-read now.

I doubt Dean is even unburdened. I think he truly doesn't trust Sam and doesn't want all that brings, but I think he'd far rather have the old Sam with him than be alone, or even than have Castiel. He's just trying to work through (but not out, in true Dean fashion) what that not being possible means for the future.

I don't think even Dean would consider getting an angel laid on his last night alive as a good thing. Knowing Castiel, and seeing his reactions to other things and situations, I doubt that even Dean would have thought for a second that was something Castiel would want for himself.

Yes. And not to overthink it (who, us?) but considering Castiel is the only angel friendly to Dean right now, wouldn't it have made more sense to spend his last night getting all possible information from Castiel? What might be coming, what to expect, how Dean will be involved, more data about this whole vessel issue, things that would be more useful than getting laid?

The "Dayenu" line had me falling out of the chair.

I don't get the meaning of this. Obviously my pop culture databanks have a gaping hole. What it is?

How long was it before the fanfic hit the interwebs concerning what Dean did to make sure Castiel wouldn't die a virgin post-getting chased out of the bordello?

Pretty sure I saw that pop up on Delicious already this morning.

I have to quibble with something someone said earlier re Sam and the sideburns. Because Sammy was smoking hot last night.

I think once you willingly cross the line into performing human sacrifice, you deserve any amount of crap anyone else cares to give you afterwards regardless of how you rationalized the decision.

You're completely right about that. It's something I've been wishing Show hadn't glossed over so quickly, and I'm doing the same thing. Dean and Sam have both made some questionable choices in the past, some selfish ones, plenty of stupid or careless ones.

That, that was new territory. Starting the apocalyse wasn't his fault, I don't think, or Dean's, even though they both had a hand in it. They both can, and should, be forgiven, even by themselves. (Though getting there promises to be long and painful.) But Sam and his choices regarding that nurse. No. That's something I'd like to see him really grappling with.

How long was it before the fanfic hit the interwebs concerning what Dean did to make sure Castiel wouldn't die a virgin post-getting chased out of the bordello?

About the time the sneak peak came out? I think?

I mean, I know that's when we started making the Bert and Ernie reenactment jokes.

That, that was new territory. Starting the apocalyse wasn't his fault, I don't think, or Dean's, even though they both had a hand in it. ...Sam and his choices regarding that nurse. No.

Yes. Sam stuffing the screaming woman into the trunk of the car was just...chilling.

The other thing I have a hard time with, and that I don't see being discussed amongst the fen, is Dean's 10 years as Torturer's Apprentice. The fact that he broke and began torturing others I do not have a problem with. He was in Hell, he was undergoing unimaginable horrors, I don't think that his surrendering to avoid further suffering is unforgiveable. What I DO think is morally questionable is the rest of his confession, the "and I enjoyed it" part. I find that as chilling as Sam and the nurse.

Also, I want Dean to tell Bobby and Sam about the first seal. It's beginning to remind me of Xander's secret ("Willow says kick his ass.") We don't have another 4 seasons or so to wait for the payoff on this one.