I just want to express my gratitude to all of you on the b.org board. I've been reading way too many rants and written screeches about Dean vs. Sam and who owes whom what and who is deified/demonized and so on and so on... Every time I think the levels of vitriol have levelled off they start rising again. This board is a calm refuge after all that.
But if the world doesn't end, I'm gonna need a note.
Cordelia ,'Potential'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Morgana - Sep 16, 2009 8:01:21 pm PDT #3421 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
§ ita § - Sep 16, 2009 8:24:00 pm PDT #3422 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The people on the outside can be scary on a lot of topics. It's very calm here.
evil jimi - Sep 16, 2009 9:19:45 pm PDT #3423 of 30002
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
Zen-like.
-t - Sep 16, 2009 9:53:39 pm PDT #3424 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Mostly
t /Newt
Beverly - Sep 16, 2009 9:57:39 pm PDT #3425 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
(loves -t)
And to make it Supernatural apropro: "They mostly come out at night. Mostly."
Fay - Sep 17, 2009 3:03:56 am PDT #3426 of 30002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
I've been reading way too many rants and written screeches about Dean vs. Sam and who owes whom what and who is deified/demonized and so on and so on... Every time I think the levels of vitriol have levelled off they start rising again.
is baffled
I SO don't get that. They have both been thoroughly fucked by the various Powers That Be sans lube pretty much from the get go; they're both flawed, in different ways, and that's partly down to nature and partly down to nurture. I love them both to pieces. I have more of a soft spot for Dean than for Sam, personally, but that's entirely down to my own personal penchant for obsessive self-sacrificing love in the Wesley Wyndham Price/Jack Bristow/Simon Tam vein, not because Dean is inherently any more virtuous or less fucked up than his brother. Sam is awesome, and has had a spectacularly shitty time of it, and has done the best he could possibly do in untenable situations, imho. His Big Picture is not Dean's Big Picture - and that's got a lot to do with John, but must also be about who they are.
I can see being pissed at the writers about genderfail and racefail, and I can see liking one brother more than the other, but I don't understand the impulse to hate on either of them just because the other one is your woobie of choice. That's craziness!
hearts both the Winchesters!
le nubian - Sep 17, 2009 4:23:23 am PDT #3427 of 30002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
The people on the outside can be scary on a lot of topics. It's very calm here
Truly. I like the folks at TWOP (for example), but sometimes, on some shows, they lose all of their shit.
Marcia - Sep 17, 2009 4:31:51 am PDT #3428 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert
I wonder if the hate on for either brother is really more a symptom of debatefail and civilityfail. The fact that many feel it necessary to argue a point without acknowledging certain truths and passion in the counter-argument is a societal problem (at least around these parts). To those hotheads, it's more important to score points than to discuss differences. It's more important to be right than to be civil.
That was rampant in the Stargate fandom. I'm glad I found a quiet, clever group of people here who love Show and know how to express themselves politely and civilly.
Cass - Sep 17, 2009 9:32:11 am PDT #3429 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I can see being pissed at the writers about genderfail and racefail, and I can see liking one brother more than the other, but I don't understand the impulse to hate on either of them just because the other one is your woobie of choice. That's craziness!
And this is why we are here and not there.
Amy - Sep 17, 2009 10:59:59 am PDT #3430 of 30002
Because books.
I'm glad I found a quiet, clever group of people here who love Show and know how to express themselves politely and civilly.
HAVE YOU MET US?!
Kidding, kidding.
We get new show tonight! God, it takes a while to get used to. I can have new show EVERY WEEK! For a while, anyway.