I've been reading way too many rants and written screeches about Dean vs. Sam and who owes whom what and who is deified/demonized and so on and so on... Every time I think the levels of vitriol have levelled off they start rising again.

is baffled

I SO don't get that. They have both been thoroughly fucked by the various Powers That Be sans lube pretty much from the get go; they're both flawed, in different ways, and that's partly down to nature and partly down to nurture. I love them both to pieces. I have more of a soft spot for Dean than for Sam, personally, but that's entirely down to my own personal penchant for obsessive self-sacrificing love in the Wesley Wyndham Price/Jack Bristow/Simon Tam vein, not because Dean is inherently any more virtuous or less fucked up than his brother. Sam is awesome, and has had a spectacularly shitty time of it, and has done the best he could possibly do in untenable situations, imho. His Big Picture is not Dean's Big Picture - and that's got a lot to do with John, but must also be about who they are.

I can see being pissed at the writers about genderfail and racefail, and I can see liking one brother more than the other, but I don't understand the impulse to hate on either of them just because the other one is your woobie of choice. That's craziness!

hearts both the Winchesters!

The people on the outside can be scary on a lot of topics. It's very calm here

Truly. I like the folks at TWOP (for example), but sometimes, on some shows, they lose all of their shit.

I wonder if the hate on for either brother is really more a symptom of debatefail and civilityfail. The fact that many feel it necessary to argue a point without acknowledging certain truths and passion in the counter-argument is a societal problem (at least around these parts). To those hotheads, it's more important to score points than to discuss differences. It's more important to be right than to be civil.

That was rampant in the Stargate fandom. I'm glad I found a quiet, clever group of people here who love Show and know how to express themselves politely and civilly.

I can see being pissed at the writers about genderfail and racefail, and I can see liking one brother more than the other, but I don't understand the impulse to hate on either of them just because the other one is your woobie of choice. That's craziness!

And this is why we are here and not there.

I'm glad I found a quiet, clever group of people here who love Show and know how to express themselves politely and civilly.

HAVE YOU MET US?!

Kidding, kidding.

We get new show tonight! God, it takes a while to get used to. I can have new show EVERY WEEK! For a while, anyway.

Opposite the premier of Fringe! Ack! Which can I live without seeing tonight?

Thank dog for a dual tuner. And, I guess, Hulu. Because I know Thursdays are going to mess me up when they get into full flow. If only I could toss Grey's.

Yeah, we still have no DVR, so I'm going to Hulu Fringe, sadly. I love it, but not as much as my Winchesters.

Well, Amy, there is the advantage of less commercials that way. I think that's what I will do, because the CW takes it's sweet time to post the episodes.

I think there is something on every major channel on Thursdays that I want to watch, possibly both at 8 and 9. It's a stumbling block in my plan to switch to DirectTV that I don't know if the service will play nice with cobbled together system of recording devices of various ages - right now I've got a Tivo and the Mac mini hooked up to the unscrambled cable feed, but I assume that would go away were I to switch over and hooking up multiple satellite receivers to the same TV seems like a bad idea in some way.