I want to torture you. I used to love it, and it's been a long time. I mean, the last time I tortured someone, they didn't even have chainsaws.

Angel ,'Chosen'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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JenP - Dec 10, 2014 1:53:40 pm PST #29988 of 30002

Yeah, more Timothy Omundson (I always want to write Ombudsman) is always good in my book.

I liked the Claire story, too, and the actor who played her. Or, how the actor played her, I guess? Anyway, I enjoyed.

Oh, Dean.


§ ita § - Dec 10, 2014 2:29:01 pm PST #29989 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, Dean.

Back in the day when I read the anon meme, they called him D:ean. Now seems as good a time as any to call the noodle that now (why Randy? Why?). Also, DEEEEEEEEAN.

I think they handled the teenaged alienated and betrayed well. It's a risky provocation, but I didn't even mind changing the actor.


§ ita § - Dec 10, 2014 3:39:25 pm PST #29990 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

OH. And John!love. People can keep hating, but it's canon, baby.


quester - Dec 13, 2014 4:18:53 pm PST #29991 of 30002
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

OH. And John!love. People can keep hating, but it's canon, baby.

THIS!


§ ita § - Dec 14, 2014 7:51:44 pm PST #29992 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can anyone help me parse this bit from a fic?

“Jo is on about us showing affection again,” Dean grumbled and pulled the chip from Castiel’s hand, Damn, for a women being against Dean glanced back at him and the Cas.

And I guess I never hit post on the question I was pondering--I'm getting into SPN arguments on IO9, as is my wont. Okay--two questions:

1) In the absence of reporting that it was the end of Kripke's five year plan (and the name of the episode), would you think that Swan Song was a good closing point for the series--both in terms of wrapping things up, and assuming that nothing since then has been worth it?

2) What would have happened to the free-Luci plan if Dean hadn't resurrected Sam? How does the elimination battle at Cold Oak jibe with the destiny that the angels and demons were working towards? It seems like a pretty big variable in a non-free will kind of a plan.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 15, 2014 5:22:42 am PST #29993 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The plan continued apace despite Dean being dead and in Hell for 40 subjective years, so I assume raising Sam from the dead would have been no biggie. Maybe the angels would have resurrected him too for the showcase showdown?


Toddson - Dec 15, 2014 6:25:20 am PST #29994 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Death: Not an ending, just a change in direction.


§ ita § - Dec 15, 2014 6:30:51 am PST #29995 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But Dean needed to go to Hell, otherwise no Righteous Man. It's not a despite, it's a because.

Why put Sam in a duel to the death if you need him to be the one that lives?


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 15, 2014 5:53:12 pm PST #29996 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

For one, it got Dean in the position of taking over as The Righteous Man after John had stonewalled them for a century of hell-time.


§ ita § - Dec 15, 2014 6:54:37 pm PST #29997 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Absolutely--but Jake was the one who won the Boy King mantle, so what was the point of all that? Who would have been his Righteous Man? His sister? They're related to Abel and Cain too? Then why wasn't Nick related to them, instead of the Winchesters (I just heard Kripke confirmed the link)--but that makes it grey canon at best? They should have been a better bloodline.