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'Objects In Space'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Dec 14, 2014 7:51:44 pm PST #29992 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can anyone help me parse this bit from a fic?

“Jo is on about us showing affection again,” Dean grumbled and pulled the chip from Castiel’s hand, Damn, for a women being against Dean glanced back at him and the Cas.

And I guess I never hit post on the question I was pondering--I'm getting into SPN arguments on IO9, as is my wont. Okay--two questions:

1) In the absence of reporting that it was the end of Kripke's five year plan (and the name of the episode), would you think that Swan Song was a good closing point for the series--both in terms of wrapping things up, and assuming that nothing since then has been worth it?

2) What would have happened to the free-Luci plan if Dean hadn't resurrected Sam? How does the elimination battle at Cold Oak jibe with the destiny that the angels and demons were working towards? It seems like a pretty big variable in a non-free will kind of a plan.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 15, 2014 5:22:42 am PST #29993 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The plan continued apace despite Dean being dead and in Hell for 40 subjective years, so I assume raising Sam from the dead would have been no biggie. Maybe the angels would have resurrected him too for the showcase showdown?


Toddson - Dec 15, 2014 6:25:20 am PST #29994 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Death: Not an ending, just a change in direction.


§ ita § - Dec 15, 2014 6:30:51 am PST #29995 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But Dean needed to go to Hell, otherwise no Righteous Man. It's not a despite, it's a because.

Why put Sam in a duel to the death if you need him to be the one that lives?


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 15, 2014 5:53:12 pm PST #29996 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

For one, it got Dean in the position of taking over as The Righteous Man after John had stonewalled them for a century of hell-time.


§ ita § - Dec 15, 2014 6:54:37 pm PST #29997 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Absolutely--but Jake was the one who won the Boy King mantle, so what was the point of all that? Who would have been his Righteous Man? His sister? They're related to Abel and Cain too? Then why wasn't Nick related to them, instead of the Winchesters (I just heard Kripke confirmed the link)--but that makes it grey canon at best? They should have been a better bloodline.


§ ita § - Dec 18, 2014 7:24:23 am PST #29998 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just had the most random trivial thought:

If Cas was looking for a good Cupid's Bow, he should have stolen Dean's lips. They're classic.

Also, that's gross.

Some random feelings from the longfic I just tastelessly devoured:

  • Tag your hate. Making Mary worse than John is technically interesting, but meanly executed. And why is Lisa evil (a witch fucking Crowley and Alistair) when Samuel Campbell is on the side of good?
  • Count your OCs' screen time. So many new characters when you could easily replace half of them with canon characters. You're not as interesting as you thought.
  • Spell, even grammar check. Radical, huh?


Beverly - Dec 20, 2014 1:22:20 pm PST #29999 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Just for those who might have missed it, Happy Supernatural Holidays! from the set.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2014 1:49:30 pm PST #30000 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thanks, Beverly.

If you guys were going to describe the hair colour of Sam, Dean, and Cas (deliberately not asking about the actors, because we know it doesn't have to carry over)?

To me, they're light brown, brown, and dark reddish brown (he needs similes).

Similarly with their eyes--green like the sun coming through the leaves, hazel (that's what green/brown is, right?), and crystal sea blue (I know, it sounds cheesy, but they look like such a different blue to me, and trust me, I keep looking).

Also about Dean's eyes--our lids cast a shadow on our eyeballs, and the way he's configured, his brows often leave a shadow that we can see hitting *under* his cornea, and it gives a delicate super 3D effect. Which is a bitch for me to draw...


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2014 1:50:29 pm PST #30001 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

SHIT! I just ended the thread! Go to B'cracy quickly and let's choose a name...