I think what bothers me about it is that it is being billed as Supernatural: Bloodlines. Yet it is it's own thing, only barely borrowing from SPN. Make the show, sure, but quit billing it as being related to SPN. Plus it wasted an episode of SPN.

I did hope whatever the pilot was would be a lot more imaginative than Bloodlines

I guess if someone told me the CW was airing a pilot for a new monster show, related to whatever, I'd expect something like this.

Maybe it's because I gave up/adjusted when they mentioned "all new characters" and I realised the business plan was like the rest of the station.

It's kind of similar to how I expected nothing of Revolution(s?) even though Kripke moved to it. I'll try anything Joss once, but it didn't occur to me to follow Kripke. My relationship to the show is all about the show, although I'll certainly follow Jensen anywhere, since he brought me here, and am hopeful about the other regulars.

it is being billed as Supernatural: Bloodlines

I did not know that. The Originals has much more durable ties with TVD than this to its progenitor. That's false advertising.

You know what this episode kind of felt like to me? One of the lesser Amazon original pilots.

Why Does Supernatural Have So Many Female Fans (at this convention the author went to) is a mildly irritating IO9 article with more irritating comments (girls like it because it's crap and they're pretty). Oddly, though, this piece of quoted revisionist history irked me the most:

The first female characters they brought in were your stereotypical, "let's sex this up and maybe we'll pull in that demographic we're still looking for" characters… So yeah, fans didn't like them and they went away.

I suppose I can see a show that's clearly made for and marketed to women having a chilling effect on potential male viewership. However, I'm somehow skeptical of a lot of men enjoying the guns, cool car, and hunting monsters for a couple of seasons and then dropping it over the sudden realization that lots of women watch too.

and then dropping it over the sudden realization that lots of women watch too.

They realized it had girl cooties. Once you realize a show has girl cooties, you have to stop watching. I think it's in the Rulebook for Dudes.

Dean! They may make you dark!Dean yet.

I know they summoned Gavin once before, so I'm confused about why he's confused about his father, unless Abaddon took him from an earlier point?

Abaddon's death was pretty anticlimactic. I'm not enjoying the angel war as much as I enjoyed watching her. They didn't pay off her character's promise at all.

They realized it had girl cooties. Once you realize a show has girl cooties, you have to stop watching. I think it's in the Rulebook for Dudes.

Isn't that what happened to the Blade TV series? Too many female fans and not enough males on a network that was supposed to be for men?

I should have done this a week ago, because we've lost the lovely Abaddon. But if she'd won like she wanted to, how could next season be anything but a war against demons. Hell, even if she didn't win, even if she'd just survived.

So: Castiel, Gadreel, Crowley, Gavin, Jody, Metatron -- am I missing anyone?

Kittens on who bites it? I'm having unfounded Castiel feels. What if Gadreel comes to the light side and he's their angel next season? And then Sam falls in love with him because he can't ignore their ultimate intimacy, and the fact that he was good in the end?

I truly want Metatron dead. Or, hey, depowered and mortal. That could be okay. I wonder if they could use Gadreel to get the angel tablet and ghost!Kevin can come back and try read it. I don't honestly care what happens to Gavin, but I'm curious about him going back in time (and killing all the Campbells).

I'd love a dead Crowley. In fact, I'd love if Sheppard took a hiatus from everything. I'm very tired of him.

More seriously, I think Crowley and Jody will survive, Gadreel dies saving the boys, Castiel dies fighting Metatron, and whatevs.

But if Kevin came back into the story, maybe Mamma Tran could kill Crowley? That would be sweet.

Problems from the Mark? How does he get it off? Who can it be trusted with? I'm assuming Cain could have destroyed it if he'd wanted. I'm also curious about what he meant by "worthy". A worthy warrior? Bloodthirsty savage.

Is there a new prophet somewhere or does Kevin's ghostliness confuse that?