You know what would have been a much better back-door pilot? The episode with Garth's new werewolf family.

Was it last season that had several episodes with a back-door pilot feel (the college werewolves, the guy who inherited a golem, the teenage hunter halfway house, and the one full of racefail and bestiality squick)? I might have been inclined to watch series based on the first two.

Loved the golem.

Warning for unpopular opinion.

I would love to see the network get 100% behind Bloodlines, get off the SPN bandwagon, and pull the plug already. The scripts and season arcs have sucked, characterisation of all three leads has been deliberately sabotaged to the point none of them is recognizable. And at this point, I think, past rescue by writers who understand them and are willing to respect canon.

Frankly, I want to see Jensen play somebody besides Dean. Misha is so adept, I want his version of practically every movie role out there. I want to see what Jared will do in other roles. It's past time this show was staked and burned, and put to final rest. If it takes the CW getting behind a show more suited for their network for them to let SPN go, then I'm all for Bloodlines being picked up.

I actually sent a (I understand, totally futile) message to the writers to please stop using Carry On for the finale, because it's become obvious there will never be peace for these characters, and apparently, they will never be done.

TV Guide had a pretty good take down on why Bloodlines sucked.

I'm thinking none of you guys watched CSI this week? That ep was also what appeared to be a backdoor pilot and was so painful that I really, really enjoyed this one by contrast. Though that is perhaps not really a glowing recommendation.

I will say the Romeo & Juliet subplot with the "I won't tell him why I broke his heart beacuse I'm so Beautifully Nooooble," thing was annoying as hell - so sick of, "we'll never be happy together because we're too moronic to have a flippin' conversation," plots.

So, interesting concept, weakly executed.

Didn't like Chicago Monster Wars. I mean, besides everything else, the acting by several of the leads was just not good. And I'm no expert or connoisseur, so.

I'm wondering what Charlie and Dorothy are doing in Oz. Just one season, maybe. That would be fun.

I feel like I just want this season to end. I'm not sad there's another season, I just hope it's... enjoyable and that they let the boys go out with a bang.

I'm not sure if I'm sad there's another season at this point, which I never thought I'd say. I feel like I need to rewatch, too -- I started the season with such high hopes, and I remember loving the first few episodes, and then it all went to shit.

It's petty and not even necessarily true, but I feel like Jared's tweets are sort of painfully gung-ho now, too. Like, he really thought that episode was a standout? Seriously?

I liked the accidental!werewolves episode, and I would love to see/read more about that girl as she travels. That would have been an outstanding backdoor pilot, like Matt said. When it ended, I was bummed I wouldn't see her again.

Why would SPN and Bloodlines be a zero sum game? People who like Bloodlines (which I'm sure will get lots of network attention, since it's a true CW show) can have it. And I can keep watching SPN alone with the people who still like it.

None of the suggested backdoor pilots are shows they want to see. They're shows that an audience, a small audience, they already have would also see, and go to the same conventions and buy about the same stuff.

I am zero interested in Bloodlines, but it makes perfect sense, and the only thing that bothers me is losing writing staff. It would have been great to have another show, but I don't think anyone's making another SPN any time now. Certainly not the CW. They have one.

I didn't expect them to make another SPN. I did hope whatever the pilot was would be a lot more imaginative than Bloodlines, though, and Andrew Dabb certainly wrote better scripts for SPN.